By Shawn McConnon

December 10, 2020


The Single Plane Golf Swing Explained by Todd Graves

Moe Norman made the Single Plane Swing famous. Many professional golfers regarded Moe Norman as one of the best ball strikers in the world. 

If you ever wanted to know how the Single Plane Golf Swing can you help you play better golf then watch this video. 

  • Single Plane Swing Instruction Starts at 34:35 Mark

Todd Graves, Founder of Single Plane Academy, joined me recently in a LIVE event to share his thoughts about Moe & the Single Plane Golf Swing.

If you are interested in learning more or working with Todd (he's a great guy) he can reached at: toddg@gravesgolf.com

The Single Swing Plane Video Transcript

Todd Graves Single Plane Swing

00:00

i've been in tampa now for 17

00:03

17 18 years now

00:12

am i on yeah yeah how you doing good

00:16

good awesome

00:20

so we're gonna give it another minute or

00:22

so guys and then we're gonna go and

00:24

go ahead and get started sounds good

00:34

yeah i'll move the chair and demonstrate

00:42

here

00:46

richard said it uh todd it's good to see

00:48

you good to see you guys

00:57

jack i i don't know if that's t-shirt

00:59

weather but i'll take your word for it

01:00

34 is pretty cold

01:07

what was the weather there in in dallas

01:10

bill

01:17

yeah i don't think he's letting people

01:18

he's not letting people chat he just has

01:20

people he sees people

01:21

kind of hop on there yeah

01:25

35 to 40. richard said

01:28

richard said long time gga member great

01:31

instructor

01:34

that's good

01:38

jay said that he appreciates your time

01:39

todd to go through the single plane

01:41

approach

01:41

thanks

01:49

all right guys well we're going to go

01:50

ahead and get started because i want to

01:52

um

01:53

i want to be cognizant of everyone's

01:54

time here and especially todd for

01:56

uh spending some time with us this

01:58

evening

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um so happy to have todd happy to have

02:03

all you guys

02:04

and let's go ahead and get started

02:07

so today's live program is all about

02:11

swing like mo and the single plane swing

02:14

that's why we brought todd graves

02:15

in here nobody knows it better than todd

02:20

and he's going to tell us why it's

02:22

easier in changing the golf

02:24

paradigm with the single plane swing

02:28

and just a couple of housekeeping items

02:31

here guys

02:32

uh this is really for anyone who has an

02:36

open mind about the golf swing it

02:38

doesn't necessarily mean that you

02:39

have to change into all going out single

02:43

plane

02:44

but i really want you guys to have an

02:45

open mind what todd is going to be going

02:48

over today

02:49

um and also anyone who's just looking to

02:52

play

02:52

better golf there's probably some things

02:54

that you can take away

02:55

today to help you start playing some

02:58

better golf

03:00

and last but not least for a lot of you

03:02

who have joined us in the past we're all

03:04

about having a good time

03:06

um we keep it pretty light and pretty

03:08

fun and

03:10

this event is going to be no different

03:14

what we have on the agenda today is

03:16

we're going to talk a little bit about

03:18

mo norman who todd had a great

03:20

relationship with

03:22

we're going to talk about the single

03:24

plane swing and todd's going to be going

03:25

over some things there

03:28

and then lastly we're also going to be

03:29

talking a little bit about bryson d

03:31

chambeau

03:34

and then uh we're gonna leave about 10

03:36

minutes or so

03:38

for uh for some q a at the end of the

03:41

session like we always do

03:44

i know you guys might hear a little

03:46

echoing going on that's because

03:48

todd's in the studio so when he's

03:51

presenting you guys won't hear that but

03:53

just bear with us a little bit on the

03:55

echo

03:56

don't turn him down too much and then as

03:57

i mentioned

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and then as i mentioned the um

04:03

the chat box i'm reading all your guys's

04:06

uh all your guys's chats and everything

04:10

uh and i'll be navigating through all of

04:13

that

04:14

the reason why we have it closed is

04:16

because we just don't want

04:17

everyone getting caught up in the chat

04:19

box going back and forth

04:22

but i can see him that's why i'm calling

04:24

all your names and

04:25

your locations off and all of that

04:30

all right so let's go ahead and get into

04:32

this a little bit

04:33

so i'm your host today i know a lot of

04:35

you on here already know who i

04:36

am but those uh hey doug how you doing

04:39

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04:41

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with our featured guest today

05:44

who is todd graves todd is the founder

05:48

of graves golf

05:49

and the the single plane academy he was

05:52

taught by mo norman moon played a lot of

05:55

golf with mountain

05:56

he played college golf at oklahoma

05:59

he coached at oklahoma and he also

06:02

played on the

06:03

canadian and asian golf tours and i

06:06

think you might even play it on some

06:07

other mini tours i'm not sure is that

06:09

right tom i played anywhere

06:10

like they let me tee it up for about 10

06:13

years so yeah

06:14

so i played a lot i played places that

06:16

people don't want to play

06:17

just to get out there i played quite a

06:19

few different places yeah

06:22

yeah so todd's got tons of great

06:25

um golf knowledge that he's going to be

06:28

uh

06:28

sharing with us and like i said we're

06:31

gonna

06:31

we're going to talk about mo norman

06:35

todd's going to show us some single

06:36

plane swing stuff

06:38

and then we're we'll talk a little bit

06:39

about bryson d shambo who's also a

06:42

single planer

06:43

and then we'll we'll save a few minutes

06:46

for some q a

06:48

tom thanks for the great glove shout out

06:50

yeah

06:52

all right so let's go ahead and uh get

06:55

started so

06:56

todd i guess talk to us a little bit

06:59

about how you got to know

07:01

you know moe norman well before i do let

07:03

me just say one thing real quick you

07:04

know

07:05

you sent me some of the gloves and i got

07:06

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07:13

watching this tonight but um

07:16

i got to tell a quick story about about

07:18

this last year you know since the whole

07:20

pandemic and covid thing

07:22

i i really hadn't played a lot of golf

07:24

since

07:25

i started my academy i literally played

07:27

a couple rounds a year at the most

07:29

this last year i kind of re-engaged the

07:32

game and i probably have played more

07:34

golf in the last

07:35

six months than i've played in since i

07:38

played on the tours

07:39

and um and so now i'm back into the game

07:42

i'm i'm looking at my equipment i'm

07:44

basically paying attention to what

07:46

everything you know putting and i'm

07:47

really back into how i was when i was

07:50

playing full-time

07:51

and you know golf gloves were one of

07:53

those things where i really didn't pay

07:55

much attention to golf gloves and now

07:56

i'm using

07:57

i'm going through a couple gloves a week

07:59

and you sent me the

08:00

the up glove and this is a great product

08:02

by the way and

08:03

i was trying to figure out why is this

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08:08

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calloway sends me gloves taylormade

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08:13

i have an abundance of equipment and you

08:16

sent me the up glove and

08:18

it's a better glove because of the mesh

08:20

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it's because

08:23

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08:25

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08:26

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08:27

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08:29

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08:32

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08:33

and it stretched itself out it doesn't

08:35

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08:36

and so you end up having to throw away

08:38

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08:40

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08:42

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08:43

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08:44

the mesh backing on these gloves saves

08:46

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08:47

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08:49

just want to i just want to tell you how

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08:52

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08:54

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08:56

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09:00

this is a great product i just wanted to

09:02

mention that before we get into this

09:03

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09:04

but yeah no no i i really appreciate it

09:07

no so

09:08

moe norman you know we get into the

09:10

whole moe norman thing and

09:12

look i i i found mo norman

09:15

because of what so many people that are

09:17

probably watching this show tonight

09:19

are experiencing with the game of golf

09:22

is i

09:22

you know i played i played in college at

09:25

the university of oklahoma i played

09:27

uh i i played the asian tour in 1991

09:30

which seems like an eon of go means

09:32

forever

09:33

long ago i was working with the best

09:35

instructors that the game

09:37

at the time that in the game the hank

09:39

haney's the the david ledbetters the

09:41

the tom anton's all these guys who uh

09:44

billy casper

09:45

it was a good friend of mine you know i

09:47

was engaged in the game trying to figure

09:49

out

09:50

um how can i step up my level of play

09:54

to be a the high quality player that i

09:57

wanted to be

09:58

you know i traveled the asian tour with

10:00

todd hamilton and david toms and

10:02

some of these guys now who are the

10:04

senior playing on the senior tour

10:06

but at the time they're the best players

10:07

in the game and i i

10:09

i have to admit i was a good player but

10:11

i wasn't near the caliber of those guys

10:13

as a player

10:14

so i was always on in the i was always

10:16

trying to become

10:18

a better golfer and um

10:21

and i kept getting worse the more that i

10:23

spent time trying to figure out the golf

10:25

swing and become a better ball striker

10:28

and i always tell people no one has

10:29

spent more money than me

10:31

on trying to figure out the golf swing i

10:33

was hiring every coach i could find the

10:35

best coaches in the world i was

10:36

traveling all over the world

10:37

and i was just not getting anywhere i

10:39

was at times i was even getting worse

10:42

and there was this guy named moe norman

10:45

that i didn't know

10:46

at the time this was back in the early

10:47

90s i knew of him

10:49

there there was probably i had heard of

10:51

mo norman

10:52

he was this mysterious guy in canada

10:54

that everybody had heard about

10:56

uh but he didn't really exist he was

10:58

just mythological character that

11:00

hogan talked about how great a ball

11:02

striker was but no one ever saw him play

11:04

because

11:04

he hardly played in the united states

11:07

and so

11:07

you know i was kind of the same way well

11:09

i was basically at wit's end this is

11:11

about 1993 or 94 i was at wit's end with

11:16

with my game you know when you're a mini

11:18

tour player like i was

11:19

you're basically begging people for

11:21

money to play golf i mean you spend your

11:23

time

11:24

finding sponsors you know i was

11:25

basically running around trying to raise

11:26

enough money and

11:28

just to keep my uh career path going

11:31

and i i had basically run out of money

11:33

my sponsors i was living in dallas texas

11:35

my sponsors had basically said hey you

11:36

know

11:37

you've had your couple of years to

11:38

figure this thing out and now you

11:40

probably ought to get a job you know and

11:42

be getting get a

11:43

get a get a career and a friend of mine

11:46

named matthew lane matthew

11:48

some people know who matthew is matthew

11:50

was a college teammate of mine but

11:51

matthew was probably one of the best

11:52

golfers that i've ever played golf with

11:54

i mean matthew was

11:55

a super high level player he won the new

11:57

zealand open he played on the tour

11:59

matthew was and he's a good friend of

12:01

mine today he was probably the best

12:02

player that i've ever

12:03

experienced as far as who i aspired to

12:07

to play like matthew played the canadian

12:10

tour

12:11

in the early 90s and he came back in in

12:13

94 and he showed me this videotape and

12:15

he goes

12:15

he goes you got to see this video of

12:17

this guy mo norman he goes you got to

12:19

watch this

12:20

so i watched this tape and and

12:23

it's funny when i watch this video

12:25

because the guys watching mo hit golf

12:27

balls

12:28

were the guys who i've been competing

12:30

against for the last three years on the

12:32

tour i mean they're all the tour players

12:34

and i kept thinking to myself number one

12:36

his swing look remarkably simple

12:38

and it it was very much on plane which i

12:40

understood because

12:41

i had spent the last three years of my

12:42

life training with all these coaches

12:44

talking about swing planes so i

12:45

had a very good understanding of of what

12:47

a good swing should look like

12:49

but moe's golf swing was remarkably

12:52

simple and it and it met all the

12:54

criteria of

12:55

of what i thought a great ball striker

12:57

should should do and matthew said to me

12:59

he goes

13:00

this guy's so good he's a freak he just

13:02

he hits it so good it's re it's

13:03

ridiculous

13:05

that was my introduction to mo now i

13:06

didn't know who mo was at the time

13:09

i had just known about him and then i

13:11

had my these great

13:12

my peers telling me about him and um

13:15

so you know what i had this video taped

13:17

and i took it out

13:18

and i just started mimicking what i saw

13:20

on that tape i just literally

13:22

started copying whatever i could and i

13:24

got to tell you this i mean the minute i

13:25

got some of the concepts down which

13:27

didn't take me long i started i was i

13:29

immediately saw improvement i mean and

13:31

for me to improve i mean i was a good

13:33

player already

13:34

but i just knew that i could this is

13:36

something i could do because

13:38

so much of golf instruction which is the

13:40

world i live in is is

13:42

teaching people and trying to improve

13:43

people that world

13:45

is very confusing i mean look for every

13:48

youtube video i put out there that has

13:50

some instruction i've

13:51

for as many people that get some benefit

13:53

from it get confused by it as well

13:54

because there's so much information out

13:56

there on youtube

13:57

that you can just get caught up in

13:58

where's my left hand grip where should

14:00

my feet be how should my arms be

14:02

position i mean

14:03

it can go on and on right so that that's

14:05

the world of golf construction and so

14:07

when i saw

14:08

mo doing this i said man that's just so

14:10

simple

14:11

um and i got benefit from just putting

14:14

my body in the same position he did so

14:16

when i did that

14:17

i then i don't want to get into the

14:19

whole long story of how i end up finding

14:21

but anyway mo was doing a clinic in

14:22

chicago illinois and i found out about

14:24

it

14:25

and i drove to chicago and now keep in

14:27

mind i've been practicing his swing for

14:29

about a year

14:30

so i had been i had been you know i've

14:32

been kind of trying to figure this thing

14:33

out for a while

14:34

so mo does this clinic and you know i

14:36

tell people it's very hard to describe a

14:38

mo norman clinic

14:39

because you see this kind of at the time

14:42

i was 64 years old so he was kind of

14:45

past his prime but

14:46

here he is um and this range was

14:48

terrible i mean we were on a crappy

14:50

range the ground

14:51

the ground we were pouring water on the

14:53

ground so it was soft enough for him to

14:55

even take a divot because it was just so

14:57

rock hard

14:58

and here was mo just hitting literally

15:00

just pure in it i mean

15:01

i just can't tell you how amazing and

15:03

look i played on

15:04

these i had played with the best players

15:06

in the world at the time

15:07

and mo by far was equally as good as

15:11

ball striker as i'd ever seen

15:12

and here he was 64 years old and he's

15:14

just like so simple so simple but

15:16

and the flight pattern and the ball

15:17

flight and the solidness of contact and

15:19

all those things you look for in great

15:20

ball striking

15:21

and i was just fascinated by it but i

15:23

had been kind of

15:24

trying to figure it out myself so mo had

15:27

if you ever saw mo to a clinic

15:29

he would have his clubs scattered

15:31

everywhere i mean he would literally

15:32

it looked like somebody just took his

15:34

bag and just dumped it out and i said

15:36

hey moe you mind if i hit your 8 iron he

15:37

goes go ahead go ahead and so i started

15:38

hitting balls he goes hey looks like me

15:40

without a belly looks like me without a

15:41

belly

15:42

so so that was kind of my first

15:45

you know number one seeing mo hit golf

15:46

balls in in person not just on a video

15:49

but also being around him and his and

15:51

just him kind of

15:53

you know becoming friends with him and

15:54

then learning and then from that point

15:56

forward

15:56

for the next 10 years before he died um

15:59

i would go spend as much time as i could

16:01

with them we'd play golf together

16:02

i was very much in the learning mode

16:04

trying to figure out you know

16:06

how did you figure this thing out or you

16:08

know and and all those things that

16:09

that people consider idiosyncratic and

16:12

putting the club behind the ball

16:13

how much body tilt he has the width of

16:15

the stance his arm alignment

16:17

all those things and and to me i just

16:20

don't

16:21

i don't know if you can make you just

16:22

can't make a swing easier than what mo

16:23

was doing and and

16:24

i i just i was always nothing more fun

16:27

than grabbed 300 golf balls on a range

16:29

with mo norman and let him go

16:30

and start hitting golf balls you know i

16:32

mean there was probably nothing better

16:33

than that

16:34

but that was what i spent 10 years doing

16:36

and just getting to know him and

16:37

and learn as much as i could and and

16:39

then and then take that

16:41

to take what i learned from owen to help

16:42

other people um

16:44

have some hope because really it's about

16:47

helping other people simplify

16:49

again because you know at the end of the

16:50

day and we're going to talk about bryce

16:52

and d chambeau at some point but at the

16:53

end of the day it's not about bryson

16:55

it's about

16:56

it's about you and me walking out there

16:58

and having a good time playing golf i

16:59

mean it's about

17:00

us stepping out there and having a good

17:02

day and hitting some good shots and

17:04

having fun and

17:05

and um maybe getting some improvement

17:08

wanting to come back to next week yeah

17:10

yeah it's just about having a good time

17:11

and if we can get better and have some

17:13

have a future in our golf game that's

17:15

going to make us better and have more

17:16

fun we get out of bed we go play golf we

17:17

have a great time

17:18

so i'm into that part of what i do i i

17:22

i teach plenty of guys that are aspiring

17:23

to be tour players and play

17:25

competitively but at the end of the day

17:26

i really enjoy

17:27

spending my time with with the guys that

17:30

you know

17:30

the 65 year old guy that gets out of bed

17:32

every day and he just wants to get some

17:33

good shots with his buddies and

17:34

take a few bucks off of him and play

17:36

some good golf and that's what i've been

17:37

able that's that's what i love to do

17:40

that's awesome i find it fascinating

17:43

that

17:44

here you are you know like there's not

17:46

too many people who can go play division

17:48

one

17:49

college golf then go play on

17:52

professional tours um and

17:57

you totally had this moment

18:00

of this is i need to get better and you

18:03

you went

18:03

you didn't get like i guess like

18:06

controlled by

18:07

all these people to go down a certain

18:09

path

18:10

you found something and you were able to

18:13

improve even though you were playing at

18:15

i mean like if you were taking a

18:17

percentage you were probably in the top

18:19

one percent of golfers

18:22

um and yet the the single point

18:25

the single plane swing improved your

18:28

golf game well i think

18:29

i think one of the things that that you

18:31

know i always think about this a lot

18:33

as far as i look at golf instructors you

18:35

know people think well

18:36

you know other what other golfers

18:37

instructors teach stack and tell all

18:39

these other

18:40

other things out there i look at all of

18:41

it you know and i think the thing that

18:43

that probably might be um

18:47

the biggest issue that i the biggest

18:49

difference that you're gonna see what

18:50

what i might teach versus somebody else

18:52

is i

18:52

i teach a specific model i mean i i

18:55

teach

18:56

which it's it's the mo norman model but

18:57

it's a single plane swing

18:59

and you know people there's this like

19:02

you've spent enough time in the golf

19:03

world to know that there's this thing

19:05

about

19:05

oh he's a method teacher versus uh teach

19:08

each person individually right and i'm

19:10

i'm very much a method teacher and my my

19:12

success

19:13

comes from the method teaching that i do

19:16

now are people different sure people

19:19

look i i just had a couple nba guys

19:21

approach me to want me to help them

19:22

they're six foot six right

19:24

so we're all we're all different size

19:25

wise but at the end of the day

19:27

we're biomechanically very similar we

19:29

have arms legs

19:30

shoulders we rotate we bend we side bend

19:33

so so at the end of the day we're very

19:34

similar in a lot of ways even though

19:36

we're all

19:36

kind of built differently at times but

19:39

it but what comes down to is you know

19:41

if it the the methodology that i teach

19:44

if in the if i had to summarize what

19:48

does that really mean like what is a

19:49

method

19:50

a method is and i think this is good for

19:52

people to understand

19:54

that that it's not it's not that i'm

19:56

trying to sit there and put everybody in

19:57

the same box

19:58

it's that i understand biomechanics

20:00

enough to know that if you're going to

20:01

take somebody

20:02

and teach them let's take for example

20:04

the grip position that you can't just

20:06

talk about the grip without talking

20:08

about the arms

20:09

and you can't talk about the arms not

20:11

talking about the shoulders and you

20:12

can't talk about the shoulders without

20:13

talking about

20:14

maybe the upper body or lower body so

20:16

you notice how everything's connected

20:18

and and so too and this is why golf

20:21

instruction gets so deluded and

20:22

confusing because people will talk about

20:24

the grip

20:25

they'll go hey you need to have your

20:26

trail hand in this position but they

20:28

haven't talked about where the right arm

20:29

should be or the left hand should be so

20:31

now

20:32

you're only getting a piece of the

20:33

puzzle and now that piece of the puzzle

20:35

may not fit in with what else you're

20:36

doing and all of a sudden now you're

20:37

really a mess

20:38

so a method guy like me it's it's it's

20:41

making sure we call them matching up we

20:43

make sure everything's matching up like

20:45

is your upper body matching your arm

20:47

position or use your hand position

20:49

matching your arm position

20:50

is your lower body matching your upper

20:52

body position is your foot position

20:53

and so you can kind of see why a method

20:56

when you get these

20:57

positions in place then you can deliver

20:59

a club to the golf ball in a very

21:00

consistent pattern

21:02

and so that's that's my explanation for

21:04

why i'm a method guy

21:06

versus hey i got a guy who's slicing it

21:08

let's get him to straighten out the shot

21:09

we'll close the face

21:10

to me that's that's that's not solving

21:12

the problem that's band-aiding the

21:14

problem in a lot of ways

21:15

where you need a consistent solution and

21:17

that's what mode really mo norma did for

21:19

me

21:19

because i was one of those guys that was

21:21

always

21:22

band-aiding my approach i mean i

21:25

remember just an example you know i'm

21:26

working with hank caney and i love hank

21:28

and he's a friend of mine i i spent a

21:30

lot of time with him

21:31

but hank would one day be go stand

21:32

closer to the ball so i'd stand close to

21:34

the ball

21:34

and then a week later he'd get further

21:36

from the ball i'm like jesus

21:37

how far do i stand from the ball you

21:39

know i need i need something here

21:41

and it was always like this kind of like

21:43

we're playing with this i

21:44

need some uh i need a system here you

21:47

know and mo

21:48

mo provided that to me it's like your

21:50

body goes here your hands go here your

21:51

feet go here and this is and you deliver

21:53

and then then you know what happened is

21:55

i became good at it because i had

21:57

something that i it's either right or

21:58

wrong you know it gave me it gave me a

22:00

model

22:01

and that's that's why i'm a method guy

22:03

that's why i'm a model guy and

22:05

i i know for a fact that my success as a

22:07

teacher comes from

22:09

putting people into the model the closer

22:10

i get into the model the better they get

22:12

the further they get from the model the

22:13

more confused they get so

22:15

it's really not a hard thing but i think

22:17

some people have a hard time kind of

22:18

grasping that

22:19

that i'm that you're just teaching

22:21

everybody the same thing i'm like pretty

22:22

much

22:23

pretty much that's what i do right well

22:26

i mean if it works and that's kind of my

22:28

point the fact that

22:30

you were an elite player and yet you

22:34

found something that's even better

22:35

like where most people might not even be

22:37

willing to

22:39

actually try something because you were

22:40

such a good player

22:42

division one golf all the the the tours

22:45

and whatnot

22:46

and yet you were able to improve with

22:48

this with this single plane method

22:50

well it's funny because it was a train

22:52

wreck at first like i when i first kind

22:54

of tried to figure out most swing

22:56

i i i qualified i got my canadian pga

22:59

tour card which was a which was a feat

23:00

in itself

23:01

because i had to go to british columbia

23:03

to the middle of nowhere morningstar

23:05

country club

23:06

and i had to go through a qualifying i

23:07

finished 12th out of 35 players

23:09

and i have to tell you my swing was not

23:11

where it is like today i mean my swing

23:13

was

23:14

i i was my equipment wasn't very good i

23:16

mean there was a lot of a lot of things

23:17

that weren't going well

23:19

and i figured out a way to to break par

23:21

and and finish 12th on in the

23:23

on the qualifying school and then i now

23:26

also have a tour card

23:27

and i'm like i don't know what the hell

23:28

i'm doing with the tour card because i

23:29

really i mean there was a lot of stuff

23:31

that i was trying to figure out still

23:32

because i'd only been swinging like mo

23:33

for a year and a half

23:35

um but it was it was interesting because

23:37

players like a guy named david reuter

23:38

people probably don't know david but

23:40

david guys would they

23:42

people knew me as a player in college

23:44

and they saw me with this moan arm and

23:46

swing now

23:46

and it was like what the hell happened

23:48

to todd you know and it was like hey

23:51

i'm i'm figuring this crap out leave me

23:53

alone you know and i had guys like david

23:54

ruder who were like

23:56

like my bodyguards going leave him alone

23:57

don't don't give him you know come

23:59

in that was it was wacky you know i mean

24:00

it was like here's this

24:02

conventional golf guy who now looks like

24:04

this moe norman guy

24:05

and now he's trying to figure out how to

24:06

make money out here on the tour so look

24:08

it was a work i was a work in progress

24:10

but

24:10

but i needed to go through that um and

24:13

you know mo would show up at some of the

24:14

events and and we would talk through it

24:16

and

24:17

and um and it took me it took me two or

24:19

three or even four years to kind of get

24:21

to where

24:22

like my last year the last year i played

24:24

competitively it was 2000 2001

24:26

and i played only played six events and

24:28

i had a chance to win

24:30

six times with nine holes left that was

24:32

within two or three shots of the lead

24:34

so i kind of figured it out towards the

24:36

end where i could i was i was i could

24:37

get competitive again with

24:39

with a single plane swing but people i

24:40

think you have to understand competitive

24:42

golf it's not always about

24:44

i had great rounds where i'd missed a

24:45

cut you know i mean competitive golf is

24:47

a very

24:48

hard thing but but anyway i mean it's

24:50

just you know i

24:51

it took me a while to figure out um

24:54

for myself but then that was an

24:56

important process to me being able to

24:58

teach people as well and how important

24:59

it was

25:00

for me to be able to translate what mo

25:02

had taught me and what

25:03

i learned um to help other people

25:06

and and i know i'm going through a lot

25:09

of this stuff but one of the things that

25:10

i always tell people was like

25:11

they say well what was like the most

25:14

important thing you did

25:15

to to be able to teach

25:19

the single plane swing i was like i i

25:20

produced a video called the single plane

25:22

solution

25:23

and when you have to take everything

25:25

that you know

25:26

and put it into a 45-minute step-by-step

25:29

process

25:30

to give to somebody else that was a

25:33

entire alert it took me it took me a

25:35

year and a half to write this video

25:36

script

25:37

and then then we then it took us another

25:39

six months to actually produce it and

25:41

shoot it and get it right

25:43

um i was like you know when you do that

25:45

you kind of figure out

25:46

how to explain to people what's going on

25:49

with the swing

25:50

and to me that was the most important

25:51

thing i ever did was that's 2010

25:53

was was put this into a package where

25:55

because what happens is you

25:57

you want i want to be able to send

25:58

somebody a video and they actually

26:01

doesn't screw them up you know i mean i

26:03

mean that at the end of the day

26:04

you're just as concerned about somebody

26:06

getting information and trans and

26:07

misinterpreting it

26:08

because that happens all the time um so

26:11

anyway there's there's been it's been

26:12

quite a

26:13

adventure as far as from going from a

26:15

player to a teacher and all that kind of

26:16

stuff but it's

26:17

it's been a fantastic fantastic

26:19

experience it's been great

26:22

yeah that that's awesome i think it's i

26:24

think it's so

26:25

crazy too how you saw a video of bo and

26:28

then yeah

26:29

you know years later here you are

26:31

playing with him

26:32

becoming really good friends and him

26:34

teaching you it's uh

26:35

that that that's like that's like

26:37

everyone's dream

26:39

is to meet like gosh i want to be like

26:41

this guy or learn from this guy

26:42

then you got to actually do that that's

26:44

not it trust me it's

26:46

i i think about all the time i miss mo a

26:48

lot i mean it was it was a great

26:49

experience and

26:50

man i wish i could ask him some

26:52

questions now it's like he's been he

26:53

passed away in 2004

26:55

there's so many things i want to talk to

26:56

him about right now but it's it's

26:58

interesting

26:58

yeah it was a great experience it really

27:00

was

27:02

and before we move on um for you to

27:05

start

27:06

showing us and teaching us and helping

27:08

us learn the single playing swing

27:10

uh you you told me as a story

27:13

about mo one time when we first talked

27:16

about

27:17

how he he went into you guys were at a

27:19

uh

27:20

i think a um you guys were at some kind

27:23

of golf

27:24

clinic or or um some kind of golf show

27:28

and he stepped into um into like one of

27:32

the simulators and

27:33

and and for his swing speed well so you

27:36

know everybody has this thing about mo

27:38

where

27:38

they see his swing and most most people

27:40

don't see a swing when he was younger

27:42

now if you go

27:43

i put some swing uh some footage up

27:44

there from the mid 80s and stuff

27:47

so you know you can kind of see a

27:48

younger version of mo but a lot of

27:50

people thought that mo didn't hit it

27:51

very far

27:52

you know mo when i i i measured him at

27:56

107 miles an hour because we are

27:58

as you mentioned in the story we were

28:00

walking through the

28:01

uh the golf show and you know at the

28:02

time think about this back in the early

28:04

90s

28:05

no one was out there with trackman in

28:07

the in the early 90s right i mean

28:08

that's this this all the technology's

28:10

kind of emerged in the last 10 years

28:12

but in in the early 90s i mean you

28:14

couldn't even find stuff to measure your

28:15

swing speed only way you could ever do

28:17

that

28:17

would be to go into these labs at

28:19

callaway or you know these places that

28:21

had the sophisticated enough equipment

28:23

well they just so happened to have some

28:24

of this equipment at the pga show so we

28:25

said hey mo hop in there

28:27

and he was swinging at 107 miles an hour

28:29

at age 64.

28:30

now the average the average champions

28:32

tour player is at 106

28:34

currently so that's right for a 64 year

28:37

old guy

28:38

and and so you know i don't know you

28:40

know wally uline

28:42

the ceo of titleist of acoustnet he he

28:45

he was one of those pallbearers at his

28:47

funeral we we're having breakfast and

28:48

wally said

28:49

you know not only was moe you know his

28:52

golf swing was

28:53

was technically so good but he got the

28:56

most

28:57

out of the golf ball when he hit it so

28:59

combine that with with a relatively high

29:01

swing speed for a 64 year old guy plus

29:04

plus the spin rates and the launch

29:07

angles and all the things he was doing

29:08

right to launch a golf ball

29:10

he could hit a ball 300 yards with 107

29:12

mile an hour club head speed

29:14

now that might not be a lot today

29:15

because because the whole world is all

29:16

about you know

29:17

bryson and all these people hitting it

29:19

so far but efficiency

29:21

and you know if you ask me right now

29:24

look i know distance is an important

29:26

thing we all want to hit it farther it's

29:27

it's a big deal but nothing's better

29:29

than

29:30

consistently hitting it uh correctly

29:33

over a course of a round at the end of

29:35

the day that's going to shoot lower

29:36

scores than

29:37

the occasional 320 hour drive so i i

29:40

always

29:40

hold this distance thing at arm length

29:42

saying look you want to be efficient

29:44

you want to be you want to hit can if i

29:47

give you a a 5 iron

29:49

you want to hit it 185 yards every time

29:51

you hit it you don't want to hit it

29:52

170 and 190. i mean there you're gonna

29:54

have a problem so right

29:56

so to me it's it's i'm i'm very much on

29:58

the on the uh

30:00

spectrum of i'm trying to help people

30:02

build very good consistent golf swings

30:05

because that number one that's where

30:06

speed comes from but number two that's

30:07

where you're going to play your best

30:08

golf over time

30:10

and that's going to take some efficient

30:11

movement which i'll be happy to talk

30:12

about as far as golf swing stuff but

30:14

so i'm not into the whole distance thing

30:16

i think it's great i think

30:17

we should all work on good golf swings

30:20

to hit it far but i'm you're not going

30:21

to see me

30:22

you know out there trying to hit it

30:23

trying to get all my students hit at 350

30:25

yards

30:25

i don't i'm not into all that i'm just

30:27

i'm into period technique as mo

30:29

would say right you know i just thought

30:32

i thought that was just a fascinating

30:34

story still at 64 though

30:36

to for him to get up to that that speed

30:39

i mean

30:39

that's that's impressive and even more

30:41

impressive like you said that

30:43

he was hitting fairwin it was so it's

30:46

hard to explain but it was just so

30:47

efficient

30:49

and it was the same flight the same

30:50

pattern um

30:52

and that's why you could drop a blanket

30:54

out there you could hit drives to be out

30:55

there you know 260 to 280 yards

30:57

just right in the same area i mean just

30:59

the flight and

31:00

what i always tell people too is when

31:03

you look at a round of golf like if you

31:04

go play

31:05

18 holes of golf you know your good

31:08

shots are going to be your good shots i

31:09

mean we all hit good shots right

31:11

it's really how good your bad shots are

31:13

you know it's like you

31:14

like you hit a is your shot go 40 yards

31:17

left or five yards left

31:18

and the five yard left one's fine it's

31:20

on the left side of the green the 40

31:21

yard left one is the one that you make

31:23

you know double with

31:24

so so it's really and where you know

31:27

that's that's dispersion patterns

31:28

getting going from here to here

31:30

and how do you do that well you can only

31:31

do that with technique the only way you

31:33

can do that is technique you can't

31:34

you can't sit there and and think your

31:36

way through your dispersion patterns

31:37

you're either going to hit it on a

31:38

pattern or you're not

31:40

and so mo is incredibly that that's

31:42

really what fascinating

31:44

me about mo is like his dispersion

31:45

patterns were just in here

31:47

i mean you could play you can play golf

31:49

with them all day long and he's just

31:50

like in this window the whole time you

31:51

know it's just

31:52

yeah the confidence you have when you're

31:55

when your

31:55

misses aren't even that bad is i mean

31:58

that really improves your golf

32:00

uh before we move on real quick just

32:03

pierre pierre asked a question and um

32:07

he said if you only had one question for

32:09

mo what would it be

32:11

that's a good question let me think um

32:17

one one question to ask him now that i

32:18

didn't already ask him uh

32:21

let me think that's a good question um

32:29

you know i asked him three questions

32:31

when i met him

32:33

i had three questions lined up the first

32:34

was how did you figure out

32:36

how to do that like how did you figure

32:38

out your swing like what was your

32:39

process

32:40

the second question was um how long did

32:44

it take you

32:45

how long did it take and funny it's

32:46

funny thing is these are the questions i

32:48

get asked all the time when i teach is

32:49

how long is it going to take me to

32:50

figure this out

32:51

um you know how did you and if i had to

32:54

ask him a question now

32:56

it would probably be on the lines of

32:59

it would be the same question i get

33:00

asked all the time it's like mo right

33:02

now what would you do right now if i

33:04

wanted to

33:04

learn your golf swing what should where

33:07

should i start what should i do right

33:08

now like how can i get this as fast as

33:10

possible

33:11

because that's the question that that

33:13

you know as coaches

33:15

people are asking us for swing advice

33:17

like people ask me about the grip

33:19

set up things like that but what they're

33:20

what people are really asking is

33:23

is how can i learn this faster like how

33:26

can i get this

33:27

faster like i don't want to go hit a

33:29

million golf balls like moted to figure

33:31

this out and i don't want people to

33:32

either so

33:33

and that's another whole reason why i

33:35

teach a model because

33:36

here's here's my perspective is yeah you

33:38

can if you want to

33:40

you're more than welcome to go hit 800

33:42

balls a day like mo did

33:44

for five years and you'll end up with a

33:46

probably a pretty decent

33:48

move at a golf ball or you can just copy

33:50

the best in the world and in a very

33:52

short period of time as long as you copy

33:54

it

33:54

relatively correctly you can end up with

33:56

a golf swing in a lot less period of

33:58

time

33:58

so i'm about speeding up the process as

34:01

well which is why

34:02

which is why i copied mo to begin with i

34:04

wanted to speed up the process i wanted

34:05

to stop the guessing

34:07

and to me the minute we stopped guessing

34:09

and the minute we go to the model and

34:11

and you can look at and go hey this is

34:12

exactly where mo is

34:14

you're improving like that that's how

34:16

fast you can improve so

34:18

so to me it's all about speeding up the

34:19

process and i would always be trying to

34:20

ask more questions about speeding up the

34:22

process

34:23

what's the next thing that's going to

34:24

get me there faster yeah that's that's

34:26

what everybody really wants

34:27

yeah um so

34:30

todd i'm going to go full video mode on

34:33

you and then maybe you can walk us

34:35

through a few things that you wanted to

34:36

cover for everyone today

34:37

i'll go through a few things real quick

34:41

so one of the things and i kind of

34:42

mentioned this a minute ago

34:44

when we talk about the golf swing and

34:46

i'll kind of step you through

34:48

from a dress position um into

34:52

swing mechanics and i'll kind of work in

34:54

order when

34:56

when i teach the golf schools or i teach

34:58

people in

34:59

kind of a formal setting i always make

35:01

sure people learn things in the proper

35:03

sequence

35:04

and the reason i do that is because um

35:07

because everything that you that you

35:09

learn relates and i'll get more into

35:11

that in just a minute but

35:12

but you can't just say okay let's talk

35:14

about lower body move because the lower

35:16

body is going to move relative to how

35:17

you position the feet

35:19

and how you position the upper body and

35:20

things like that so we have to work in a

35:22

proper order

35:23

the second thing that i think is

35:24

important to understand is i talk about

35:27

grip and how you hold a golf club

35:29

secondary to body position

35:31

now that's a little counterintuitive

35:35

to what most people teach most people

35:37

teach grip first

35:39

and if you read if you look at if you go

35:41

into barnes noble right now and you go

35:43

look at all these books

35:44

the first thing they start out with is

35:46

grip and so i i i'm kind of counter to

35:49

that because

35:50

the way you place your hands on the club

35:52

is a direct relationship to club face

35:54

but it also relates to your arm position

35:56

so you must to me

35:58

you have to talk about the position of

36:00

the body

36:01

and the hands together and when you look

36:04

at mo

36:05

and you look at a single plane swing and

36:06

you look at especially mohs technique

36:09

what you see is because of his body

36:11

position

36:12

and because of the way his hands are

36:14

placed on the club

36:16

you get this alignment of the lead arm

36:17

and the club

36:19

and then from a down the line view you

36:21

get another alignment see the alignment

36:22

of the trail arm in the club now

36:24

these two lines this alignment here

36:28

and this alignment here are a function

36:31

of

36:33

my tilt of my body the rotation of my

36:36

arm

36:37

and the rotation of my trail arm so you

36:39

can notice that

36:41

the grip body position and arm position

36:43

are all very related

36:45

to get into this what we call ideal

36:47

single plane address position where the

36:49

club is lined up with the lead arm

36:51

see that alignment there and then from a

36:53

down the line view

36:55

the club is lined up with the trail arm

36:57

now you'll notice from that down the

36:59

line view that this arm

37:01

is visible above that arm and it's not

37:03

visible and and this is where

37:06

when you start instructing people and

37:08

you're trying to get some clarity on why

37:10

you're seeing this it's not because my

37:13

arms are lifted higher because that's

37:14

what everybody tends to see

37:16

they see oh moe's all hands are higher

37:18

if you actually had mo

37:19

today and this is one of the questions i

37:21

asked him was like moe how do you feel

37:23

at a dress he felt like his hands were

37:24

underneath him well

37:26

that's kind of counter-intuitive to

37:27

people thinking well my hands are

37:29

lifted up high and it's because when

37:31

he's side bent this is called

37:33

side bend that's tilt side bend

37:36

notice how my arm comes up this leads

37:38

shoulder goes higher

37:40

all right well that arm goes higher but

37:41

it actually brings this arm lower

37:43

and those two things create a single

37:46

plane alignment with that club so now

37:48

you got the lead arm lined up

37:50

and you got the trail arm lined up so

37:53

what you're going to see in the reason

37:55

that i kind of focus

37:57

on the model which i mentioned earlier

37:59

is because

38:01

the the hand position this hand being in

38:03

this rotation which i'll talk about in a

38:05

minute

38:06

this hand being in this rotation the the

38:08

bend of the body

38:09

side bend it's everything's related it's

38:12

all related to

38:14

uh the address position in the grip and

38:15

you can't you can't single out

38:18

one thing and say well mo is a great

38:20

ball striker because of his grip

38:22

you have to look at all the metrics

38:24

together so having said that

38:26

let's kind of walk you through and i'm

38:28

going to do this without a golf club for

38:30

just a second

38:31

when i put my body in that position so

38:33

here's what i'm here's what's actually

38:35

occurring

38:35

and i try to back i try to back up

38:38

everything i teach

38:39

with a little bit of biomechanics in

38:41

other words you know i don't want people

38:42

to get too confused by

38:44

what does biomechanics really mean but

38:46

but it's just i want to back things up

38:48

with

38:48

with some some some realistic things

38:50

that you go that make you

38:52

on your head go oh that makes a lot of

38:53

sense so what when you go like this with

38:56

your body so if i take you and i

38:57

and i put you in a side vent just like

38:59

moe norman which is about 15 degrees of

39:01

side bend

39:03

and i isolate what i'm gonna i'll talk

39:05

about a second if i isolate this

39:06

arm and the way i do that i just want to

39:08

grab my grab my upper arm and not let it

39:10

move

39:11

you'll notice that i can only move my

39:13

hand so far

39:14

so you're going to see that because of

39:17

side bend because of shoulder and upper

39:19

arm isolation

39:20

i only have so much range of motion of a

39:22

lead arm

39:24

and let me ask you this question the

39:27

most important

39:28

moment of a golf swing is when you get

39:31

to this moment of impact right

39:33

we all want to get to this impact where

39:34

the face is square the hands are leading

39:36

and we're able to produce speed on a

39:38

golf club if we can get there

39:39

consistently

39:40

we can hit a golf ball consistently well

39:43

i want to help you get get to the impact

39:45

position but i don't want you i want to

39:47

create limitations of movement

39:49

and out and this is where maybe what i

39:52

teach is different than what a lot of

39:53

people teach

39:54

how do you create a limitation of of the

39:57

body

39:57

in other words if i said to you i'm

40:00

going to mistake proof your movement in

40:01

other words

40:02

you can swing as hard as you want you

40:03

just can't go to the wrong position well

40:05

here's how i do that

40:07

by giving you side bend of the body

40:10

right

40:10

it isolates the shoulder because of the

40:12

band you can only you can only move the

40:14

shoulder so far

40:15

it's isolating the lead hand position so

40:17

now

40:18

as long as you're side bent and you turn

40:20

you can only go

40:22

to that spot all right now i'll give you

40:24

some other examples

40:26

my my lead we teach the lee knee being

40:28

slightly flexed

40:30

we want the foot to be rotated and the

40:32

knee to be flexed

40:34

i want this foot on the ground watch

40:36

what happens so now if i'm

40:38

side vent and i rotate the back of the

40:41

hand goes to the target remember that's

40:42

your club face

40:44

and now i can only go so far with my

40:47

lower body

40:48

so now what i have is i am basically

40:51

only able to go to this position at

40:53

impact

40:54

and i can swing as much as i want as

40:56

long as i'm side vents

40:58

my foot's down my in my knees flexed i

41:00

am hitting a position

41:01

the only position that my body can go to

41:05

this is the foundation of what moe

41:07

norman did because

41:08

by by positioning his body knee flex

41:12

foot down

41:13

side bend upper upper hand position

41:16

there's one final thing that he did

41:17

which is really interesting

41:19

is when you do this and you go in the

41:21

side bend notice what this hand does it

41:23

goes into a non-rotational position

41:25

this would be similar to hammering a

41:27

nail or whatnot

41:29

so now what you're getting is you're

41:31

getting this

41:32

the easiest motion that the body can

41:34

produce and you're creating limitations

41:36

in it

41:37

so it can only go to those positions

41:40

now you add speed to that and now so

41:43

what happens now i'm going to add speed

41:44

to a golf club

41:45

and so i put my body in those positions

41:48

there's my lead arm position

41:50

my side bent my trail hand position

41:54

and now when i swing as long as i hit as

41:57

long as my body stays in those positions

42:01

it the club has to square up because

42:03

it's the it's the only place

42:05

that the body can go so you just saw me

42:09

walk you through the golf swing

42:11

by creating limitations in the body

42:15

and so that's really where this that's

42:17

really where the success of mo came from

42:18

because

42:19

i asked mo this question i said

42:23

i said mo how do you be become so

42:26

consistent and his only answer ever to

42:28

me was

42:29

hit your positions so i had to go what

42:32

are the positions

42:33

that you have to hit well the address

42:36

position because that's that

42:37

and when i say address that includes

42:40

foot position leg position upper body

42:42

position

42:42

arm position all the things i just

42:44

mentioned and then

42:46

the position of the body's bend side

42:48

bend rotation

42:49

the position of the body bent knee foot

42:52

down

42:53

side bent body and then the position of

42:55

the finish and if you're able to hit

42:56

your positions which mean

42:58

all the positions of the body the club

43:00

can only go

43:02

into one path and that's really i mean

43:06

i could go into a lot of detail i'd be

43:07

happy to answer any questions that

43:09

anybody has

43:10

but that's really the foundation of why

43:13

if you asked

43:14

a simple question and said well why was

43:15

moe such a great ball striker

43:18

is because he couldn't make a mistake

43:21

because of the way he was positioning

43:23

his body it created limitations

43:25

in what was possible in other words his

43:27

club could only go to a square position

43:30

because of the way his hands and body

43:33

placed

43:33

were on the golf club his foot position

43:36

because of the knee flex the foot down

43:38

his lower body could only go so far so

43:41

to me

43:42

how you move is just as important as the

43:45

position of your body to restrict

43:46

movement

43:47

you have to look at both sides of that

43:49

equation it's not about

43:50

you know so often people say well rotate

43:52

more no that's not the answer

43:55

rotate the correct amount with the body

43:57

in the correct position so

43:59

there's a lot of things i'd be happy to

44:00

answer if people have some questions

44:02

about

44:02

yeah now real quick before like um

44:06

that was kind of mind-blowing to be

44:09

honest with you like

44:11

i i never heard anyone put it in that

44:14

perspective

44:15

with the um with the limitations

44:18

but it's so practical and makes

44:22

so much sense what you just said and

44:24

it's and it's funny because

44:27

everything that you hear i guess if you

44:30

want to call it

44:31

traditional golf is

44:35

more about like how open can you get

44:38

at uh at impact and all these things and

44:41

and it's all been like you know all

44:43

these players have

44:44

different um different degrees that

44:47

they're open

44:48

tilted all this stuff but it it's

44:52

it's always usually about like how much

44:54

more hip that

44:55

can you get how much more uh open can

44:58

you get an impact to reduce

44:59

club face rotation etc

45:02

and you never heard anyone just explain

45:06

that like we want to limit

45:08

limit some of your movements so you can

45:10

just be

45:11

consistent and efficient

45:14

well watch this for just a second

45:16

because because one of the things that

45:17

was so important for me in my learning

45:19

process was to

45:20

was to spend time with guys that are

45:22

much smarter than me

45:24

in the understanding of how the body

45:25

actually works and if you you know guys

45:27

like greg rose with tpi

45:28

and these guys that really are into the

45:30

biomechanics of the swing which by the

45:31

way

45:32

i knew nothing about five years ago i

45:33

mean i was literally just was teaching

45:35

mohs swing and saying hey

45:36

this is the best way to do it and now i

45:38

know why mo's swing

45:40

was so efficient and so good but one of

45:42

the things they explained to me and i

45:43

think it was a great explanation that i

45:45

needed to hear

45:46

if you actually look at a good golf

45:48

swing you what you

45:50

what what a biomechanics a person who

45:52

understands the kinematic sequence of a

45:54

swing will show you is

45:55

is the swing's kinematic sequence have

45:56

you ever seen a kinematic sequence

45:58

before

45:58

yeah yeah so so most coaches and people

46:02

have seen these kinematic sequences

46:04

which are just

46:04

graphs that basically are mapping body

46:06

movement in the speed of the body parts

46:08

well what's interesting about a

46:10

kinematic sequence chart which we don't

46:11

it's detailed and it's fun to look at

46:13

and i love looking at this stuff

46:15

but what's so fascinating about a

46:16

sequence chart is you're seeing movement

46:19

but what you need what you really are

46:21

focusing on is how

46:23

body the body is producing speed so

46:26

we all want to make sure that when we

46:27

hit a golf ball that when we get to a

46:30

certain point

46:31

we can accelerate the golf club through

46:32

impact and make sure it's square at the

46:34

moment of impact

46:35

so it's really about what's happening in

46:38

this area through here

46:39

so the next question that you have when

46:41

you're understanding biomechanics

46:43

is how is that happening like like this

46:46

is a this is a question you sit in a

46:47

room with biomechanics guys and go okay

46:49

you just produce a lot of speed in your

46:50

arms how did that just happen

46:53

and it's an interesting question because

46:56

you get to the point where it's like

46:57

okay

46:58

the arms are moving but they had to move

47:01

around something

47:02

like they're just not you can't have

47:04

arms just freely moving

47:05

so what what you come what you end up in

47:07

the conclusion is

47:08

was you got to stop this to let this to

47:12

allow this to move you have to stop that

47:15

to allow that to move and you bet matter

47:17

of fact you have to slow the arms down

47:19

to let the hands move so you start

47:21

focusing on what's stopping

47:23

you start focusing on what what's

47:25

allowing the next part to accelerate

47:28

so if i had to give you an analogy it

47:30

would be a horse race

47:32

and the horse race would look like this

47:34

there would be

47:35

so let's just look at the golf swing for

47:37

a second in the sequence of events

47:39

you have the lower body moves first

47:40

right there's that stabilization of the

47:42

lower body

47:43

and then you have the body turning and

47:45

then you get to a point where

47:47

in conventional golf they post up you

47:49

see this a lot in our swing you you hit

47:51

into a flex knee

47:52

which is safer we like that better but

47:54

then you've got the upper body turning

47:55

but then

47:56

look look what happens to my body about

47:58

right here if i'm

47:59

side bent and people can stand up out of

48:02

their chair and try this

48:03

you can't really turn more than that i'm

48:05

talking torso here

48:07

the only thing left to move from this

48:08

point is the arms and the shoulders can

48:11

start moving past the body

48:13

so in other words you get here's what

48:14

happens you get lower body movement

48:17

torso movement arms and shoulder

48:19

movement and then you have the

48:20

completion of the sequence of events

48:23

so what allowed that to occur where did

48:25

that start well it started right here

48:27

it started when the lower body stopped

48:29

here and said you know what todd

48:31

i'm only going to let you go this far

48:32

i'm not letting you go anymore the only

48:34

thing that you can move now is the right

48:35

side of your body

48:36

okay the right side of my body okay now

48:37

what what's next

48:39

well i can't move the right side of my

48:40

body anymore so what can go oh the arms

48:42

can go

48:43

and all of a sudden now you have a

48:45

perfect sequence golf swing

48:46

and it's because of what stopped not

48:49

because of moving more

48:50

and that's really the biomechanical side

48:53

of that horse race of the horse race of

48:55

lower body upper body arms hands than

48:57

club

48:58

it's that horse race that's happening

49:00

from the top of the swing

49:02

and the question that i always had for

49:04

these biomechanics guys was

49:06

was this it's like how is the upper body

49:10

using the lower body like how is the

49:12

torso able to

49:14

to now rotate with the lower body

49:16

stopping and then when i get to this

49:18

point here

49:19

how do the arms accelerate if the upper

49:21

body is stopping

49:22

and they're using the next body part so

49:24

the horses they're in the horus race

49:27

and the torso the pelvis takes off first

49:29

so here's the pelvis goes first

49:31

then the torso then the the arms and

49:34

then the hands

49:35

so you have this four the sequence of

49:37

events but the torso

49:38

the the pelvis is out first the torso

49:41

second

49:42

arms are third hands or forth well

49:44

here's what happens

49:45

this pelvis that goes first and then the

49:48

torso goes you know what

49:49

i'm going to grab on to that pelvis

49:51

right here

49:53

and i'm going to use it to move and so

49:55

what it does is it grabs onto that

49:57

pelvis and then the arms go you know

49:58

what i'm going to grab onto that torso

50:00

and so each additional body part is

50:03

grabbing the next one

50:05

and using it but here's here's my point

50:07

to this

50:08

if it's not stable if i for example

50:12

turn my pelvis and i don't stabilize it

50:14

the torso has nothing to work

50:17

against so then it says you know what

50:20

todd

50:20

um i can't i can't move i can't

50:23

accelerate

50:23

well guess what the arms are going to

50:25

use the torso and the torso is like i'm

50:27

not stable can't use me

50:29

and then people cast early and they

50:30

release the club and then also they lose

50:32

all the speed

50:33

so people who want to produce more speed

50:35

which might be the conversation that we

50:36

have about bryson

50:38

it's really not about moving more it's

50:41

really about moving more efficiently

50:44

stopping this in the correct way moving

50:46

this stopping this in the correct way

50:48

and then moving that so it's that

50:50

sequence of events that people have to

50:51

get better at

50:52

which is the biomechanics of the swing

50:54

but i mean i'm in in a way i've kind of

50:56

explained that without trying to get in

50:58

too much detail

50:59

that's awesome man yeah that that makes

51:01

a lot of sense if you

51:02

if you want um todd what we can do is i

51:05

did get a few

51:05

questions maybe we can answer those here

51:09

because it's uh they're all swing

51:11

related

51:13

um so j

51:16

ass did uh mow grip in the palms or the

51:20

fingers it was difficult to tell from

51:22

the videos i've seen

51:24

yeah now it's a good question i mean i

51:26

get that question all the time and

51:28

here's the thing about it

51:30

it was in the fingers but pay attention

51:34

more

51:34

to um hand rotation and

51:38

if i would have thought about i would

51:39

have brought mo gave me a bunch of his

51:40

club so you could see his grip size

51:42

pay more attention to um the rotation of

51:46

the body position

51:47

more than is it in the palm or is it in

51:50

the fingers

51:51

so let me just kind of do a quick

51:52

demonstration because i want to explain

51:53

this a little bit

51:55

um if you look at mo's address i'm going

51:58

to grab the shaft of the club

51:59

uh yeah i'll just grab the shaft of the

52:01

club and you can see that i'm actually

52:03

holding the

52:04

shaft i'm not even holding the grip so

52:05

this is the thinnest part of the club

52:07

and i can easily hold that just like mo

52:11

norman did

52:11

that club is aligned exactly where most

52:13

club was aligned with my trail arm

52:16

and it's exactly lined up with my lead

52:17

arm so there's no reason

52:19

that i can't properly align a golf club

52:21

with my arms and my hands

52:23

holding the shaft now i'm going to take

52:25

my hands off the club for a second

52:27

and you're going to notice that that

52:29

shaft is running through

52:30

this part of my hand so i'll come closer

52:33

to the camera so you can see that

52:34

so look where it's running through my

52:36

hand that would be considered more

52:37

towards the fingers of the hand

52:39

now what i'm going to do is i'm going to

52:40

move this grip into my hand

52:42

and you're going to see it start filling

52:43

up my hand and you're going to say now

52:45

well

52:46

that might be a little more towards the

52:48

palm of the hand

52:49

and then i'll come up to the top of the

52:50

club and okay now it's more towards the

52:52

palm

52:52

so to me the important part is that the

52:56

shaft

52:57

is going through the proper part of the

52:58

hand and the the palm

53:01

idea is always based on grip size if you

53:04

look at bryson for example

53:05

massive grips on his club right and yeah

53:08

they're going to go right up into the

53:09

palm of the hand they're huge grips

53:11

they'll fit right up in the palm of the

53:12

hand

53:13

but so of course it's like if i was

53:14

holding a water bottle

53:16

that thing would fill up my entire hand

53:18

but the shaft line

53:19

is still going through that part of the

53:21

hand which you

53:23

here's where you run into a problem if

53:25

the shaft line runs too high into the

53:27

hand

53:28

and this is this would be the shaft

53:30

running through the palm now i got a big

53:31

problem here's why

53:33

because now i cannot leverage this golf

53:36

club

53:36

i can't produce an angle and it's

53:39

because

53:39

this shaft has to be under this is the

53:42

radius bone of your arm

53:44

it has to be under that radius bone to

53:46

produce a leverage angle see what

53:48

happened there

53:49

and and so there's a lot kind of to this

53:51

and people get

53:52

way too caught up in palm versus not

53:55

palm

53:56

i am not a big grip in the palm guy

53:59

because it bases on grip size

54:01

what i want to see people do is get the

54:03

proper hand rotation

54:04

so that means body position

54:08

hand rotation the club being under the

54:10

radius bone

54:12

and then look at this hand notice how

54:13

when i tilt this hand goes into a

54:15

rotation

54:16

this hand is now under the club now i'll

54:18

do this again with you

54:20

watch where this club is placed even

54:22

though see how it's lined up with my

54:23

trail arm perfectly into a single plane

54:25

alignment

54:26

however my palm isn't anywhere near the

54:29

golf club it's actually running through

54:30

the fingers

54:31

but it's the rotation of the hand that

54:34

keeps it lined up with the arm

54:36

right so be very careful on this whole

54:39

palm idea

54:40

because what people are doing is they're

54:42

getting very thin grips normal grips

54:44

trying to grip these in the palm

54:45

reducing leverage and everybody runs

54:47

around saying i'm hitting it so short

54:49

there's no reason you should lose speed

54:51

but if you start going palm palm with a

54:53

thin

54:53

grip the shaft the shaft plane gets out

54:55

of alignment with the arm it's

54:57

you know it's biomechanics but you're

54:58

going to run into some problems but good

55:00

question

55:00

i get that a lot chris asked is the

55:03

speed and the downswing created

55:05

late

55:08

well any kinematic sequence shows you

55:11

that yes

55:13

all speed is well late being see late is

55:16

a term

55:16

uh late is a sequencing term right if

55:20

i say late when in late in the sequence

55:22

so if you

55:23

let's just look at it because because

55:27

what's happening is the speed of the

55:29

pelvis starts first so you're going to

55:30

see the pelvis move first

55:32

then you're going to see the torso move

55:34

second and then you're going to see the

55:35

arms moving down and then

55:37

the final speed the late speed is

55:40

the hands the arms and shoulders

55:43

delivering the club so the hands arms

55:44

and shoulders delivering the club

55:46

so yes it's a it's late relative to the

55:48

pelvis it's late relative to the torso

55:50

so that's a timing question the answer

55:52

is absolutely

55:54

um that's a very easy thing to see both

55:56

on video and

55:57

if you're doing any biomechanics work

55:59

but the so i guess maybe

56:01

the answer to that is let's look at the

56:02

feeling of that and i always realized

56:04

related to this

56:06

it's like once your lower body is stable

56:07

that means you moved into that lead side

56:10

and i can turn as much as i want and

56:12

then i'm going to release the arm so

56:14

what you're getting there is a release

56:16

of the arms what i would say

56:18

in the latest moment possible so that

56:21

yes the answer is yes it is a late

56:23

feeling of the arms and hands

56:25

delivering the club at the last part of

56:26

that sequence awesome

56:28

randy asked to comment on grip pressure

56:32

he said the single plane works for him

56:34

when he has a relaxed grip it doesn't

56:37

work when i grip

56:38

too tight so

56:42

so grip pressure and here's what i

56:44

always mention to people about the grip

56:45

is that

56:46

your hands cannot do anything to a golf

56:49

club except hold on to it

56:50

so if you look at if i'm holding a golf

56:53

club the hands

56:54

by themselves cannot move a golf club

56:57

and so i mean the only way i can move a

57:00

golf club is to let go of the club right

57:01

but as long as my hands are holding the

57:03

club

57:04

they have no function and movement at

57:06

all so they're literally just

57:08

clamps now how does that when you talk

57:10

about grip pressure what does that mean

57:12

well

57:13

if you add pressure to these clamps

57:15

you're actually adding pressure to the

57:16

wrists

57:17

so the wrists are now locked and that's

57:20

what keeps people from having

57:23

and so well what happens is and it's

57:25

exactly what i talked about a few

57:26

minutes ago

57:27

is when you freeze the wrists you're

57:30

actually freezing the arms which affects

57:32

how the shoulders

57:33

so basically when you add pressure it's

57:35

not about the hand pressure that's

57:37

really the problem

57:38

it's really about how much tension get

57:39

put into the arms and shoulders and now

57:41

you're not freeing up the movement when

57:43

you let those hands have a little more

57:45

less pressure now see how my my arm can

57:48

bend

57:49

which it couldn't do when the wrists

57:51

were locked and now the arm can

57:52

straighten so now you can use the arms

57:55

to the hands

57:56

and wrists correctly and the hands

57:58

because you reduce the pressure

57:59

allow the arms and wrists to work and

58:01

that's really what i think

58:03

the question is right it's yeah you can

58:05

add too much pressure but it's not the

58:06

hand pressure that's the problem

58:08

it's the way it's restricting the

58:09

movement of the arms and the wrists

58:11

so i'm i'm not saying i'm a light

58:13

pressure guy i think you got to hold it

58:15

pretty good with the lead hand

58:16

but i'm a very light wrist right wrist

58:19

pressure because

58:20

i always relate it to this if you're

58:21

going to skip a rock

58:23

you don't you hold the rock in the end

58:24

of the hand right so the rock's here

58:27

and you're in and by the way you're

58:28

tilted and now you're going to skip a

58:30

rock and it's a it's a non-rotational

58:32

skip

58:32

but you can't you can't grab the rock

58:34

with with all your pressure

58:36

and expect it because it's too much

58:38

pressure and you're not going to be able

58:39

to use the wrist

58:40

so think about skipping rocks when

58:42

you're holding a golf club just enough

58:43

pressure to

58:44

to skip the rock or skip the golf club

58:46

and that's going to allow the wrist to

58:47

work great

58:48

so think about risk pressure not

58:50

necessarily hand pressure that makes

58:51

sense

58:51

uh lee asks did did mo norman hit

58:55

fades and draws or only straight shots

58:58

yes yeah i got that question a lot so

59:02

i played i was going to tell you this

59:03

quick story uh one of the last rounds i

59:05

played with mo

59:06

we we used to play in titusville all the

59:07

time at a club called royal oak

59:10

and the you know it's pretty not a hard

59:13

golf course but you know it's kind of

59:14

fun

59:15

and one day i'm playing with mo and he

59:16

keeps hitting it like he went straight

59:18

right into the right trees then he hit

59:19

it on the green and then

59:20

the next hole was left and he was

59:22

hitting it not down the middle of the

59:24

fairway

59:24

and i'm about six holes into it and i

59:26

said hey mo you know what's going on he

59:27

goes i found all the shortcuts

59:29

and so what he was doing was he had

59:31

played the chorus and he could find

59:33

shorter angles and he would literally

59:34

hit it in the rough on purpose

59:35

because he could hit it between the

59:36

trees he was hitting eight iron where i

59:38

was hitting five iron and things like

59:40

that because i was sitting down the

59:41

fairway having long shots into the

59:42

greens

59:43

moe hit it generally 90 of the time he

59:46

hit it straight

59:48

if at any time i asked him to fade it

59:49

and draw it he could fade it and draw it

59:52

now i want to talk about shaping golf

59:55

shots

59:56

and and i play a lot of golf now by the

59:58

way i play a lot of golf

60:00

and i'm gonna i'll i'll say this with um

60:02

because

60:03

you can check out my youtube channel i

60:05

play i play rounds of golf on my youtube

60:06

channel

60:07

the only time i allow a golf ball to

60:10

shape

60:11

is when i'm i'm letting the wind help

60:13

its shape so in other words

60:15

i never try to force a shape of a golf

60:17

ball around a tree

60:19

i mean okay so maybe i hit it in the

60:20

trees and i gotta hit a hook but even

60:21

that

60:22

trust me those are when i'm usually in

60:24

trouble and i usually end up hooking it

60:25

back into the trees and i

60:26

hit a bad shot so 99 percent of the

60:30

shots that i play are a straight shot if

60:32

they move any direction it's because i

60:33

let the wind do it

60:34

and i recommend and this is just my

60:36

recommend as a coach

60:38

is stop worrying so much about hitting

60:41

draws and

60:42

fades and absolutely learn to hit a golf

60:43

ball straight because once you learn to

60:45

hit a golf ball straight

60:47

then 90 of the shots you're going to hit

60:49

for the rest of your life are going to

60:50

be straight at targets

60:52

and then the one the 10 that you want to

60:54

curve it aren't going to even matter

60:56

because half the time you want to curve

60:58

it it's

60:59

because you're in trouble anyway so i

61:01

always tell people look i i want you to

61:03

hit a straight pattern at a golf shot

61:04

i want you to build a straight pattern

61:06

and then let the wind move it if it

61:08

needs to

61:08

but your best golf will be played when

61:10

you can predict

61:12

a straight shot the people who are out

61:14

there curving balls one direction or the

61:16

other

61:17

the reason you're curving a golf ball is

61:18

because you don't know how to hit it

61:19

straight and so you're trying to predict

61:21

its pattern

61:22

and so a guy who's trying to hit a draw

61:23

is just like at least i know what's

61:24

going that way

61:25

and a guy who's an affair at least i

61:26

know what's going over there so it's all

61:29

about

61:30

our goal as to become better golfers is

61:32

to develop a predictable pattern

61:35

and so i'm always working with students

61:37

build a straight pattern the game gets

61:38

so much easier

61:39

than trying to predict the left pattern

61:41

or right gotcha

61:43

thomas asks uh if you make any

61:45

adjustments to the swing for a pitching

61:47

wedge versus a driver

61:51

uh to the swing no the mechanics of the

61:53

swing are exactly the same but obviously

61:55

you know a pitching wedge obviously it's

61:58

a much shorter golf club and so

62:01

the the um so you don't have as much

62:04

centrifugal force because the club's

62:06

closer to the body because it's a wedge

62:08

so the only difference would be stance

62:10

width

62:12

and by the way let's look at something

62:14

real quick this would be kind of

62:14

interesting

62:16

uh this is a this tool right here by the

62:19

way

62:20

is one of our basic training tools it's

62:21

our alignment trainer has it tells you

62:23

where your

62:24

ball position should be your foot

62:25

position for each club in your bag so

62:28

this is just a little training tool that

62:29

we

62:29

we train with nice i'm gonna put the i'm

62:32

gonna put the ball position right here

62:34

for iron ball position and that's right

62:36

here and look at this for a second so

62:38

here's my lead foot position

62:40

and that ball position with the wedge is

62:42

five inches inside my lead foot so

62:44

my lead heel is five inches okay keep

62:46

that in mind

62:48

now this is a pitching wedge and if you

62:49

look at me with a pitching wedge you're

62:51

going to look at well that ball is about

62:53

the middle of your stance right just

62:54

about the middle

62:56

now when i go to hit i'll go i'll grab a

62:59

i'll grab a

63:01

uh let's grab a four iron

63:04

i'm gonna leave the ball position where

63:06

it's at so i'm not changing ball

63:07

position i'm gonna leave my lead foot

63:08

where it's at

63:09

but i'm gonna move my four my foot wider

63:11

for a four iron

63:13

now you're going to see that ball

63:14

position looks much more forward here's

63:16

a wedge

63:16

looks like it's the middle and here's a

63:19

four iron okay

63:21

the ball position didn't change so this

63:24

is this is what's important

63:25

but it actually did change because if i

63:28

go to hit a wedge i want you to watch my

63:30

lead shoulder

63:31

so here's my wedge now watch my four

63:33

iron you see my lead shoulder what

63:35

happened to my lead shoulder

63:37

yeah it goes it goes back that way right

63:40

so effectively even though the ball is

63:43

not moving

63:44

relative to my foot it's moving relative

63:46

to the shaft angle

63:48

see that right so so

63:52

people always say well you know moe

63:54

would say i don't move the ball position

63:55

well he didn't move the ball position

63:57

but he adjusted the trail foot based on

63:59

the club he was hitting

64:00

so this wedge watch what happens now

64:03

because of the ball positions here

64:05

look at how much shaft length i have in

64:07

that wedge okay let's call that 10

64:08

degrees right i don't know what that is

64:09

let's call that 10 degrees right

64:12

at impact let me grab my 4 iron again

64:16

now wider stance look what happens now

64:19

at impact

64:20

you have less than 10 degrees because

64:22

you're more behind the golf ball

64:24

and the club now launches at a higher

64:26

angle and

64:28

of course a four iron you can't have 10

64:30

degrees de-lofted and before iron so

64:33

basically moe figured out that just by a

64:35

slight adjustment of his trail foot

64:37

he could adjust it for each club so the

64:39

answer to the question is yeah i'm

64:40

adjusting my trail foot position

64:42

based on the club that i'm hitting but

64:44

i'm leaving the ball position in the

64:45

same place gotcha

64:46

awesome uh we got a few more here if

64:49

you're

64:50

if you're good with that todd yeah uh

64:52

pierre asks um

64:54

do you know why this swing is not um is

64:57

used as much on tour besides uh bryson

65:02

i i really don't have i've never had a

65:04

good answer for that question other than

65:06

the way golf golf is taught now it's you

65:09

know there's this thing out there

65:11

i almost i read a lot of golf

65:13

instruction articles and they throw a

65:14

term around

65:16

which i still don't think that this term

65:18

is the right term but they call it the

65:20

athletic position at address

65:22

right it's like the athletic position

65:24

well what is that well if you ask any

65:26

conventional golf instructor

65:28

he's going to show you well the athletic

65:30

position is you bend your knees a little

65:31

bit

65:32

you get stable you hang your arms

65:34

straight down

65:35

and so they're going to show you this

65:36

athletic position however you look at

65:38

anybody at impact

65:40

and they're nowhere near that

65:43

athletic position and the reason i bring

65:45

this up is because

65:46

this whole idea of hanging the arms

65:49

straight below the shoulders

65:50

is where 99 of golf is being taught

65:54

but but we don't impact a golf ball with

65:56

our arms below our shoulders we impact

65:58

the golf ball with our arms

66:00

lining up with the club shaft so

66:03

it's the way golf is taught it's taught

66:05

from a it's taught from a two-plane

66:07

position

66:08

and then there's all these varieties of

66:11

solutions for a two-plane position

66:13

and i'll give you what i mean by

66:14

solution is if you look at

66:16

lee westwood for example his both feet

66:19

are off the ground

66:19

going into impact everybody is trying to

66:23

solve a problem and i call it the one

66:25

mistake

66:26

the one mistake is if you start in an

66:28

athletic position which i don't think is

66:30

athletic but let's just call it that

66:32

if you start with the arms hanging down

66:33

you got a problem because

66:35

when you move a golf club it's the force

66:37

of the club is moving away from you it's

66:39

going to try to

66:40

line up with the arms so we have to come

66:42

up with a solution for that

66:43

well moe figured it out i mean he

66:45

figured out that all you got to do

66:47

really

66:47

is make sure the club is lined up with

66:49

the arms to begin with and then you no

66:50

longer have the problem that's why he

66:52

was

66:52

such a great ball striker and the guys

66:55

who tend to find this solution

66:57

sergio garcia and guys who are a little

66:59

more like this

67:01

steve stricker and now bryson you get

67:04

there they're going to have a better

67:05

chance of getting to the impact position

67:07

so you're starting to see guys out there

67:09

that are

67:09

getting closer to this and my my

67:12

contention is always

67:13

the guys who are the closest to being on

67:15

the impact plane to start

67:17

are always going to be the better ball

67:18

strikers they got a lot less movement of

67:20

the shaft going into impact

67:22

but i mean i don't know a good answer to

67:23

why more guys aren't doing it other than

67:25

it's the way golf is taught

67:26

it's taught to hang the arms straight

67:28

down and and the other thing too i could

67:30

mention

67:31

is that i've played competitive golf

67:34

i've been on

67:34

plenty of tours i've done so much in the

67:37

game of golf

67:38

ball striking is an important part i

67:40

love it i mean it's it's i focus on it

67:42

it's part

67:43

it's it's it's what i do i love teaching

67:45

people i love watching people improve

67:46

their ball striking

67:47

but it's only a piece of the game the

67:49

guys who win out there on tour

67:51

are good ball strikers but they're

67:52

chipping and putting remarkably well i

67:54

mean if you got to focus on the people

67:56

putting well um so there's so many

67:58

elements of the game that ball striking

68:00

is just a piece of the puzzle and so

68:01

we can focus i love the golf swing i

68:03

want everybody to hit it solid and

68:04

straight but at the end of the day you

68:05

got to make putts

68:07

as i know i played a money game the

68:08

other day and i three putted the ninth

68:09

green and lost

68:10

all the money on the last hole because i

68:11

three put it so so you can lose your

68:13

money from putting and i hit it really

68:14

good too by the way

68:15

well that that's a good point though

68:17

because the vac the

68:19

the the shaft does go more vertical at

68:22

impact i've seen

68:24

people talk about that a lot about how

68:26

this the shaft does go more vertical

68:28

uh to your point yeah so if you're

68:31

starting here

68:32

you're gonna you're gonna see guys

68:33

they're impacting on a higher plane

68:34

right

68:35

so they're having to an upward movement

68:37

of the body well

68:38

there's a lot that goes on to make to

68:40

get the club to do that now

68:42

look there's a lot of good ball strikers

68:43

out there i've played with plenty of

68:44

them and guys can learn hit it well but

68:45

and that's just a piece of it

68:47

it's this is a much easier motion mo

68:50

figured out that if he

68:51

if he put the club now keep in mind that

68:53

i'm tilted because we talked about that

68:55

but if i put the body in the correct

68:57

position that this straight line right

68:59

here

69:00

going into a golf ball is much easier

69:02

than starting here

69:04

and figuring out a way to get that to

69:06

occur so so mo just figured out

69:08

a more direct path to hitting a golf

69:10

ball and that's why

69:12

i mean that's why i i was attracted to

69:13

it because i saw an incredibly efficient

69:15

way to hit a golf ball

69:16

uh dave was wondering uh if there's uh

69:20

how much torque is on the front leg

69:24

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69:25

well i i don't know if i can quantify

69:28

torque

69:29

um i don't know if anybody quantifies

69:31

torque but

69:33

torque torque is is force and rotation

69:36

and there is a lot more torque in a

69:39

conventional swing than what we teach

69:42

and i'll tell you why because i i always

69:45

recommend that people have a rotated

69:47

foot to start with

69:48

at least 30 degrees because what happens

69:51

is now the lead

69:52

see the lead knee can can flex towards

69:55

the foot

69:56

and now there's very little torque on

69:58

the lead leg but here's here's

70:00

here's a danger zone that i think people

70:03

have to be careful of and

70:04

look when i see this when i when i coach

70:06

i'm like oh crap when i see this

70:08

when i see people with a straight foot

70:10

on the lead foot

70:11

now we have a problem because now we're

70:13

asking for pelvis rotation

70:15

but now we got a knee that's out of

70:17

position to rotate so now you have

70:18

torque so if you want to get torque off

70:20

the lead foot

70:22

you've got to rotate it this way so that

70:23

the knee can

70:25

it's already in a rotated position it's

70:27

it's it's opening it

70:28

opening itself up so now it's less

70:30

torque so

70:31

there's very little torque in what i

70:33

teach but i know if you have your foot

70:35

straight you're going to feel torque

70:36

which i wouldn't recommend

70:37

okay uh steve was asking uh in

70:41

in your book that you described the

70:44

first thought of the down swing should

70:46

be the front knee

70:47

shift to the toes can you explain when

70:50

this

70:51

when this move should occur in in the

70:53

sequence

70:54

yeah no i love that question um so in my

70:57

book

70:58

i i'm gonna if i could put an amendment

71:00

in that book here's what i would do

71:02

because

71:03

th this was it's actually the first

71:05

thing that happens is yes

71:07

from the top of the swing the knee goes

71:08

towards the toe but i want to ask that

71:10

same

71:11

biomechanical question is how the heck

71:13

is that happening right i mean

71:14

i always ask that question because it's

71:16

the how that's happening that's

71:18

important not that it is happening

71:19

we can watch we can watch all types of

71:22

things go on the swing but i want to

71:23

know

71:24

why it's occurring and i want to go

71:27

i want to take a step back and look at

71:28

the backstreet for a second because

71:30

when i go to the top of my backswing

71:32

you'll notice that i'm working against

71:34

the inside of my leg

71:35

and the inside of my trail foot now the

71:37

reason i bring that up

71:39

is because when i i can easily

71:42

move my pelvis over into that knee see

71:44

that that's what i talk about in the

71:45

book is that

71:46

you want to see the knee go towards that

71:48

lead toe

71:49

it's like you're stepping into a shoe

71:51

but i can't step into a shoe if i don't

71:53

push off of my

71:54

trail leg so so i want people to spend

71:59

you know this is my this is part of my

72:00

coaching is i want you to pay as much

72:02

attention to what happens in the back

72:04

swing

72:05

as you do in that first movement into

72:06

that knee because if you are out of

72:08

position in the back swing let's say you

72:10

shift over

72:11

i am not in a position to move into that

72:14

knee

72:14

does that make sense right so so to me

72:17

the backswing position this is why most

72:19

had hit your position here

72:21

because then now it's so easy to move

72:23

that transition

72:24

into that lead knee that's me moving my

72:27

pelvis

72:27

into that knee that's a lot easier well

72:30

and by the way

72:31

if you get shifted like this you can't

72:33

do it so

72:34

that makes that movement easy and

72:36

whoever is asking that question

72:39

if you're having trouble with your

72:40

transition look at your backswing

72:42

position

72:43

first before you start trying to get

72:45

over into that knee because

72:46

most likely it's a backswing issue not a

72:48

downswing issue

72:49

awesome uh jeff i think um

72:52

todd kind of addressed some of the

72:54

advice on wedges and

72:56

and partial shots with ball position

72:59

i don't know if you wanted to add any

73:00

one last thing there

73:03

yeah well the wedge game so

73:07

one of the things i've done this year

73:08

which has been a heck of a lot of fun

73:09

for me

73:10

um i've worked i've worked heavily on my

73:13

wedge game

73:14

and i've worked a lot on my putting

73:16

which is something i wish i would have

73:17

done a lot more when i was playing

73:18

competitively by the way

73:19

but but um but the wedge game look

73:23

if we we it's a partial swing it's

73:26

you're not

73:27

it's not a speed thing it's it's a

73:28

distance control thing

73:30

you're going to see the ball position is

73:31

still in the same spot but i got a very

73:33

narrow stance because i'm not making

73:34

let's say i'm hitting a 40 yard wedge

73:36

shot

73:36

i'm also choking down on the club

73:38

because i want to reduce the speed of of

73:40

the the club this is a 58 degree club

73:43

and now what you see is i put my body in

73:45

a position to where

73:47

the club's not going to go as fast and

73:49

my body is open and i can take a partial

73:50

swing

73:51

and then accelerate the club to hit the

73:53

shot but what i do

73:54

is i work on the length of my back swing

73:58

and i gauge it by my lead arm so

74:00

so if my lead arm is here that's what i

74:03

call 730

74:04

and then i accelerate the club the ball

74:05

goes 40 yards with my 58 degree club

74:09

if i go to nine o'clock right here see

74:11

my lead arm at nine o'clock

74:12

this club goes 60 yards and i've done

74:15

this with each club in my bag

74:16

and i am magical when it comes to my

74:18

wedge game i mean you get

74:20

i can get anywhere between 102 yards

74:23

with my pitching wedge

74:24

inside 35 yards and i have a gauge

74:27

exactly for that shot so that's kind of

74:29

how i i mean

74:30

i didn't i want to get into a whole

74:31

wheat conversation here

74:34

but that's how i gauge my wedges because

74:36

here's the way i look at it

74:38

nobody is good at feeling a wedge shot

74:42

and here's why i say that um a good

74:45

friend of mine dr gill morgan do you

74:46

know dr

74:47

no i don't so

74:50

i get to spend a lot of time with dr

74:52

gill we hit balls all the time together

74:54

and he's an eye doctor like he's an eye

74:56

doctor guy and we talk about this all

74:58

the time is that

74:59

everybody sees things differently we see

75:02

slopes and shadows and

75:04

and uh and no one's really good at

75:07

understanding distances very well

75:09

how many times if you stood over a wedge

75:11

and tried to feel it in there and hit it

75:13

either

75:13

way short of the green or you hit it 40

75:15

yards past the flag it's like what just

75:16

happened

75:17

right and so if we can find ways where

75:20

we're not so reliant on

75:22

our vision and more reliant on just the

75:25

movement of the golf club

75:27

we can dial in the distances we hit a

75:28

golf shot this has really helped me a

75:30

lot

75:31

in the last year so with my wedges but

75:33

but having said that

75:34

i think you have to come up with a

75:36

system and if i if i had a suggestion

75:39

for anybody that's watching this tonight

75:41

here's what i here's what i would ask

75:42

you to do as a coach this is this is the

75:44

coach speaking here

75:46

um and i when i when i have time to what

75:48

i mean by time is if i have players like

75:50

that i know i'm going to see more than

75:52

once i always ask them this question i'm

75:54

like

75:55

i want you in the next six months to

75:58

pretend i gave you a folder and in that

76:00

folder i said this is how todd graves

76:02

plays golf

76:04

and i want you in that folder create a

76:06

section for how you play the game how do

76:08

you

76:08

how do you swing a golf club how do you

76:10

hit a wedge how do you hit a putt

76:11

how do you read a green right show me

76:14

how you play golf

76:15

and i want and so if i ask you this

76:17

question six months from now i said i

76:18

want you to give me your folder

76:20

i want to see how you play guess what i

76:22

can coach you now because

76:24

because now i can show you how to okay

76:27

that's how you hit a straight shot let's

76:28

go hit a curve

76:29

i can show you how to manage a golf

76:31

course now because now i know how you

76:32

play golf

76:34

i don't think anybody really has a good

76:36

grip on how they play

76:37

they play what i call chaos golf or

76:39

random golf they go out there like

76:40

what's going to happen today

76:41

you know how do you warm up for how do

76:43

you warm up for a round how do you

76:45

prepare for a round

76:46

um you know what is your what is your

76:47

process for reading a green

76:49

all these things that that good players

76:51

if you look at what good players

76:53

every good player can say oh i'll tell

76:54

you exactly how i read green let's say

76:56

exactly

76:56

how do you hit a drive down a fairway do

76:58

you have a process for hitting a fairway

77:00

it's an interesting question right i

77:02

mean if i said to you

77:04

there's a hundred thousand dollars right

77:08

and if you hit the fairway you get that

77:09

right you're gonna go like this you're

77:11

gonna go like okay wait wait wait wait

77:12

hang on a second i gotta make sure okay

77:14

you got to make sure you hit the fairway

77:16

okay how are you doing that what okay

77:18

pretend you have

77:19

what process is going to give you the

77:21

absolute best percentage chance of

77:23

hitting the fairway well that's what you

77:24

need to figure out like what is that

77:26

process

77:26

right and see good players have figured

77:28

this out whether it's intuitively or

77:30

from lots of competitive golf or lots of

77:32

experience

77:32

but if you tell any good player that

77:36

every and every given time that you got

77:38

to give yourself your best chance on

77:40

every shot you hit they have a process

77:41

for it right

77:42

so i always tell people that i'm

77:43

coaching is like man you got to start

77:45

thinking about these processes like how

77:47

do i

77:47

i have a process for how i hit a golf

77:49

shot and i use it every time i hit a

77:51

golf shot so i

77:52

it's not hard for me to hit a golf shirt

77:53

because i walk in there i step in

77:55

i take one waggle two waggle when i hit

77:57

you know it's my process

77:58

and it's hard for me not to use that

78:00

process but it gives me my best chance

78:02

of hitting the best shot so i think a

78:04

good piece of advice for people out

78:06

there is

78:07

is look you got to start thinking

78:09

through

78:10

what are your answers to those questions

78:12

like what what

78:14

if i if you had to hit a fairway what

78:16

process do you use

78:17

if you had to hit a 40 yard wedge shot

78:20

five feet from the hole

78:21

how do you do that show me the process

78:23

and you'll start rethinking

78:24

um you'll start rethinking what you do

78:27

and you'll get better now i think that's

78:28

that's really sound advice

78:30

i'm going to do a couple more here guys

78:32

i want to be cognizant of everyone's

78:34

time here

78:34

um lee asked an interesting question he

78:37

said um

78:38

comment on the difference between jim

78:39

hardy's one plane swing

78:42

and mo norman's one plane our single

78:44

plane

78:45

they seem to be very different

78:49

you know i got to be a thousand percent

78:50

honest with you i haven't spent a lot of

78:52

time looking at jim hardy stuff i do

78:53

know

78:54

that he spends most of his um

78:57

one plane concept matching up shoulder

79:00

shoulder plane with arm plane

79:03

that's where he spins that's where he he

79:05

dictates whether the arms and shoulders

79:07

are matching up with their plane

79:08

that is very different than what i'm

79:10

talking about with the single point

79:12

swing

79:12

what i what i talk about in in

79:16

in the single plane swing that that mo

79:18

norman that i teach with moe norman is

79:21

is look if i set up like this

79:24

and i and i put you in the proper

79:26

address position

79:29

this uh you can see easily that the club

79:31

is lined up with my right arm

79:33

okay so i have that line up that will be

79:35

the exact same plane that the club ends

79:37

up at impact so i'm matching this plane

79:39

with that plane that is my definition

79:42

that's what bryson does by the way

79:43

that is my definition of single plane

79:45

and why why is that such an important

79:47

concept for me

79:49

because if you look at um

79:52

i have to go back to biomechanics the

79:54

spatial relationship i have to a golf

79:57

ball for example you can get too far

79:58

from the ball right

79:59

so if i'm in the correct spatial

80:01

distance from the ball

80:03

my lower body my spine and my upper body

80:05

can repeat their position

80:07

so it's really about my spatial

80:09

relationship to the golf ball

80:10

that makes it very easy to repeat my

80:12

impact position

80:13

so to me if i want to if i ask you the

80:15

question what's the easiest way

80:17

to strike that ball on the ground with

80:20

this stick

80:21

you're going to put your body in a

80:22

position with the stick that allows this

80:25

to realign consistently that's why my

80:28

feet are on the ground

80:29

and that's why my lower body is in the

80:31

same position so i'm just simply trying

80:33

to

80:33

i'm trying to put the body in a position

80:35

that simplifies impact

80:38

when i wrote my book we started out

80:41

with impact talking about impact because

80:44

the most important moment in a swing is

80:46

impact

80:46

well the entire anybody who's trying to

80:49

hit a golf ball better

80:51

only cares about one thing can i get the

80:53

club consistently to impact and that's

80:55

that's really what the whole purpose of

80:56

this whole thing is

80:57

right so everything you learn in a golf

80:59

swing

81:00

whether it's hand position arm position

81:03

body position

81:04

should be related on is that helping me

81:06

get to this moment of impact in a more

81:07

consistent way

81:09

so that's really the the answer to to

81:11

the whole equation is

81:12

what mo figured out was well if i put my

81:15

arm in my body in this position

81:16

it allows me to recreate that club shaft

81:19

position

81:20

and my face squares up every single time

81:22

i have

81:23

people have seen me do this but i i

81:24

created a

81:27

the reason this product this is my

81:28

single plane trainer

81:30

it's probably a little hard to see

81:32

against this white background but

81:34

um what this what this is just a

81:36

basically i'll put it down here so you

81:37

can see it's basically a five foot long

81:39

stick with a grip

81:40

on it but what it does is you'll notice

81:42

that it creates a lead side relationship

81:44

yeah

81:45

and it re it recreates that that same

81:47

impact position

81:49

so basically what people don't what

81:50

people can get from this

81:52

is that the golf swing is lead sided see

81:55

how the hands are leading

81:57

so it's a left-sided delivery of a golf

81:59

club which if you look at it from here

82:01

it's going to recreate the plane every

82:03

single time so we call this a single

82:05

plane trainer

82:06

so it's it's a relationship of the lead

82:08

side of the body

82:09

and recreating the impact plane this is

82:12

actually the base

82:13

best training tool we have because it

82:15

teaches you

82:16

how to lead with the hands and how to

82:18

create a swing plane

82:20

which this is a basic product that we

82:22

use quite a bit

82:23

ken said he practices with it all the

82:25

time says it's a great

82:27

product jeff said uh thanks todd because

82:29

you answered his question your book

82:30

saved my game can't wait to work on a

82:32

wedge system

82:35

awesome all right yeah i think i think

82:37

it's great if

82:38

you guys start it's a good time in the

82:39

winter time to start thinking about

82:42

think about if i did if i said hey in in

82:44

three months to five months

82:45

i want you to be able to if i ask you

82:47

the question show me your golf game

82:49

show me what you do to to play a round

82:51

of golf how do you hit a tee shot how do

82:53

you

82:53

how do you execute an approach shot how

82:54

do you hit a wedge shot how do you hit a

82:56

bunker shot

82:57

you know if you had solutions for those

82:59

this is my process i use

83:01

you watch how fast you can get pretty

83:02

good at this game awesome

83:05

all right so we got a couple more here

83:07

and then uh we'll probably slow things

83:10

down here guys um

83:13

uh what um paul asks is there any

83:16

adjustment that you make

83:17

on a side of a hill ball above or below

83:19

your feet

83:22

well so yes i mean there's a couple ways

83:25

you can deal with side hill eyes number

83:26

one is

83:27

it you'll notice that if you take a club

83:29

off of its plane so

83:31

this club is designed i'm gonna grab

83:33

something out of my bag real fast

83:34

if you um

83:39

no all i have is a white tee i know if

83:40

we can see this very well but if you

83:42

take a club so this club is designed

83:43

this is a 7-iron

83:45

it's designed basically on this plane

83:47

lie angle versus shaft plane

83:49

and if you take any club and let's say

83:52

the ball is above my feet so basically

83:54

the ball is above my feet

83:55

so you'll notice it flattens the shaft

83:57

plane out well even though the face may

83:59

still be square

84:00

it will aim that face straight to the

84:02

left you can you guys can experiment

84:04

with this take a club off of its plane

84:05

and see where the face angle goes so

84:07

basically side hill lies

84:09

are trying to compensate for the shaft

84:12

being off its plane

84:13

and so there's there's really a number

84:16

of ways you can do this

84:17

number one you can just aim more to the

84:19

right and let the ball hook right i mean

84:21

that's like the fastest way to do it

84:23

that's that's that's the simplest way is

84:25

yeah

84:25

basically i'm not changing my swing i'm

84:27

just gonna let the club i'm gonna put my

84:29

body

84:30

on the plane of the the ball and where

84:31

the ground is and i'm going to swing on

84:33

that plane

84:34

and by the time i get to impact the ball

84:36

is just going to cruise over to the left

84:37

or

84:38

you know curve to the right if it's

84:39

below my feet now

84:41

i'm going to i'll take it to my advanced

84:43

level all right

84:45

let's say that there's a bunch of water

84:46

to the right

84:48

and you're aiming right to the right and

84:50

if you don't quite hit it solid

84:51

and the ball doesn't spin to the left

84:53

it's going i don't like kitten at the

84:54

hazards no one should be hitting it a

84:55

hazard

84:55

i think that puts the hazard into play

84:58

is there a way to make up for this

85:00

problem i have of the shaft being above

85:02

the plane and the answer is yes

85:04

i can put the ball back in my stance and

85:06

effectively

85:08

when i hit that ball the face is open

85:11

right right

85:12

effectively because it's back in my

85:14

stance so

85:15

in other words let's pretend the ball is

85:17

above my feet

85:19

and and i and that's going to go to the

85:22

left if i put the ball back in my stance

85:23

see that no longer goes to the left

85:25

so basically the ball position being

85:27

back has compensated for the face aiming

85:30

left

85:30

that's my advance way so now i can aim

85:32

at the target put the ball back in my

85:34

stance and i hit it with an open face

85:35

and it goes straight

85:36

careful with that one you gotta play

85:39

around with it because

85:40

just because you're on a side hill lie

85:41

doesn't mean the ball has to curve but

85:43

you got to figure out something to do

85:44

with the face

85:45

there's a lot of ways to do it but from

85:47

a swing mechanic standpoint i don't

85:48

change a thing

85:49

it's exactly the same thing it's it's

85:51

going to be body position is the same

85:54

you're just adjusting for whatever the

85:55

the plane of the shaft is on

85:57

and you're making the same swing motion

85:59

you just got to compensate for whatever

86:00

that face angle is doing at impact

86:02

all right so we got the final final

86:05

three questions here guys

86:06

um uh jerry was asking about the stack

86:10

of tilt versus the single plane

86:15

yeah i mean i once again i i look i i

86:17

look at the stack and still stuff

86:19

i don't some of it's okay i think that

86:22

i'm i'm very much into the health of the

86:24

spine and the ideal position of the

86:26

spine here's what i do know

86:28

at impact so let me just go through one

86:31

thing really quickly

86:32

a little more into the detail there's

86:34

three metrics of the body

86:36

there's what we call bend of the body

86:37

bend to the body is when the body is in

86:39

this position

86:40

bending this way or this way uh or the

86:42

or the pelvis is bending this way or

86:43

this way

86:44

there's side bend of the body and that's

86:46

this this axis when the body's in this

86:48

in this bent this way or side bent this

86:50

way and then there's obviously the

86:51

rotation of the body and there's another

86:53

one called thrust which is

86:54

the body moving forward and backward now

86:58

when it doesn't matter if you talk stack

87:01

and tilt it doesn't matter if you talk

87:02

about anybody else's method

87:04

the golf swing is those three metrics i

87:06

mean you're gonna have to deal with

87:07

those three metrics of the body

87:09

the way i deal with those metrics is i

87:11

what i care about

87:13

is if you look at the metric of impact

87:15

and if you if you took

87:16

if you took 2 000 of the best golfers

87:20

and you took their impact position you

87:21

laid off you laid their swings

87:23

against each other and including mel

87:25

norman

87:26

you're going to have a particular metric

87:28

of the body you're going to have

87:29

about 35 degrees of pelvis rotation

87:32

about 35 degrees of taurus rotation

87:35

about 25 degrees of forward bend and

87:37

about 20 degrees of side bend

87:39

so you're going to have those metrics at

87:41

impact they're going to be in that range

87:43

okay so having said that i know where

87:46

we're trying to go with impact

87:48

and i said before we should all be we

87:51

should all understand that that is the

87:52

purpose of ball striking is to get to

87:54

those metrics

87:55

now here's the question how do you get

87:58

to those impact metrics and that's the

88:00

difference between maybe what a stacking

88:01

tilt teaches versus what i

88:03

teach is i'm going to put the body i

88:06

know that i need 20 degrees

88:08

of side bend at impact i'm going to i'm

88:10

going to be at 16 at address

88:12

so i only have to go about four degrees

88:13

to get to impact so i'm going to create

88:16

from a dress shaft plane same thing

88:19

a shaft plane i'm going to basically

88:21

simplify

88:23

my ability to go from my address

88:25

position to those metrics that impact

88:27

with the least amount of movement

88:28

the least amount of rotation and the

88:30

least amount of variation of club shaft

88:32

movement

88:33

that is the purpose of the single plane

88:35

swing

88:36

so when people say what about stack and

88:37

tilt it's a variation on metrics

88:40

and so it's it's what all golf swings

88:42

are it's how much are you stacked is

88:44

your

88:45

spine this way or this way are your

88:46

hands this way or this way

88:48

it's going to be a variation of metric

88:49

so we could talk about

88:52

10 different swing methods however i

88:54

want to keep

88:56

my only my purpose as a golf teacher and

88:58

a coach

88:59

is to say i'm going to simplify this

89:01

thing down right i'm going to find the

89:03

easiest way to get the job done

89:05

and mo figured it out i mean we don't

89:07

have to go very far mo figured out that

89:09

if i put myself

89:10

in this band it makes getting to impact

89:12

very easy so

89:13

like i i don't know all the details of

89:15

stack and tilt

89:16

i know what people i know people come to

89:18

my school that have been through stack

89:19

and tilt

89:20

but but once again we're dealing with

89:22

there's only so many metrics the body

89:24

can go into what we have to figure out

89:25

is what's the easiest way to get the job

89:27

done not

89:28

well let's try this one method or try

89:30

this one thing or whatever i'm always

89:31

looking for the easiest gotcha

89:33

and uh jay just real quick asked um

89:36

about the side tilt you kind of answered

89:38

his question

89:40

it sounds like you said 16 degrees and

89:42

does that change

89:44

um for each club you hit or does it

89:46

remain

89:47

it's good question it's the same so so

89:51

let me go back through that

89:52

sideband is so if my body goes towards

89:55

the target it's a negative

89:57

bend if my body goes away we call this a

90:00

positive bend

90:01

so i have a 16 degree positive position

90:04

of my side bend now oh my god let me

90:07

grab a driver because a lot of people

90:09

it's a good question is it different so

90:11

this would be a driver i won't put it on

90:13

a t but here's my driver position

90:16

it's 16 degrees of side bend now notice

90:18

my notice of the width

90:20

of my feet okay so just pay attention to

90:22

the width of my feet

90:23

but that's 16 degrees of side bend now

90:25

let me grab my shortest club i have here

90:27

which is my wedge

90:29

and the ball position obviously is is

90:31

back with a wedge but look at my side

90:33

bend

90:34

it's exactly the same 16 degrees so it

90:36

doesn't matter if i have a driver

90:38

or a wedge it's the exact same side bend

90:41

now forward bend driver

90:46

wedge right so driver there wedge there

90:48

so forward bend

90:49

you're going to see some differences in

90:51

forward bend and this is where we can

90:53

have a whole other conversation about

90:54

single length clubs which we don't need

90:56

to get into

90:57

but yeah so this is why you know there's

91:00

some benefit to

91:01

possibly having single length clubs i'm

91:02

not a huge fan of that because

91:05

it comes down to your swing speeds and

91:07

all these factors we can talk about if

91:08

you guys

91:08

by the way if anybody wants to reach out

91:10

to me email me

91:11

we'll we're going to email everybody you

91:13

know you're going to email everybody

91:14

that you can give my contact information

91:16

yeah

91:16

if you want to talk about that stuff

91:17

i'll be happy more than happy to talk to

91:19

people about it but

91:20

but yeah so sideband the answer to that

91:22

question is the same side bin for every

91:24

every single club

91:25

awesome and then bill asked if you could

91:28

show the left hand position again

91:30

do you rotate the left forearm

91:32

counterclockwise until it locks with the

91:35

thumb at 12 o'clock

91:37

yeah yeah so left hand so so

91:40

is this the last question yeah yeah okay

91:42

so let me just go into a little bit of

91:43

detail here and we'll finish it off so

91:45

um what i'm trying to do biomechanically

91:49

and this is you know in the conversation

91:51

of bryson

91:52

this is the great thing about what

91:53

bryson is

91:55

bringing to the world of golf not only

91:56

is he is he is he showing people

91:59

the differences of what you know this

92:01

the scientific element of

92:03

biomechanics but he is bringing to light

92:05

something that

92:06

that i have not had the platform to

92:08

bring that mo did not have the platform

92:09

to bring

92:10

was what we call range of motion or what

92:12

mo what bryson calls zeroing out

92:15

and what this really is it's taking your

92:17

body and saying okay

92:19

if you if you take your body and you

92:21

tilt it okay so there's my side bend

92:24

and i isolate the shoulder so it can't

92:26

move i can only move my lead arm so far

92:29

that's the full range of motion of my

92:31

lead hand right

92:32

well that's really important because the

92:35

goal of impact

92:37

is to put your body into i mean you

92:40

can't you're moving so fast and your

92:42

arms are moving that you can't no one

92:43

can time up

92:44

by thinking impact so you want to put

92:47

your body in a position the only place

92:48

it can go is into its full range

92:51

so what bryson is very good at talking

92:53

about and what mo

92:54

was not good at talking about was if i

92:57

put my body if

92:58

i take this arm and i go into my side

93:00

bend which is the first thing that's

93:02

important

93:02

and then i isolate my upper arm and only

93:05

use my forearm

93:06

it puts the back of my hand into a full

93:08

range to the target

93:10

and so that is the position of the lead

93:13

hand as long as the club face now

93:15

the leading edge of the club is square

93:16

to my full range

93:18

now that's what's going to occur when i

93:20

get to impact see that that's my full

93:22

range of motion

93:23

and here's what's so good about it it

93:25

can only go to square

93:28

no matter what i do i can only square

93:29

the club there's just no other variance

93:31

to that

93:32

so this is why when i teach the grip

93:35

position which

93:36

we're talking about the lead hand here

93:37

it's why the side bend

93:39

is a very important factor in that if

93:42

you watch this if i come out of side

93:43

bend see how the face can open up now

93:45

see that i have very i have variable

93:46

here but this eliminates a variable

93:49

it can only go to that full range of

93:51

motion

93:52

and square squareness of the face and

93:54

the lead arm and i can go as far as i

93:56

want that way

93:57

and so so and let me go down the line

94:00

now so if you look down the line

94:02

i go side bend right there's my side

94:04

bend there's my isolation there's my

94:06

rotation

94:07

and then i'll put my club into the hand

94:09

so now there's my lead hand position

94:11

there

94:12

and there's my lead hand position there

94:14

and the trail handle stick it on there

94:16

just because now that i'm in side bend

94:18

i bring the trail hand up and now this

94:20

arm is below

94:22

the lead arm there

94:25

so that's the single plane alignment

94:27

which allows me to

94:29

get that thing square every single time

94:32

and we talked about it earlier tonight

94:35

as a coach

94:37

if you can if you can develop what i'm

94:39

doing here with my technique and putting

94:40

myself into the range of motion

94:42

the beauty is you're going to hit great

94:44

golf shots but

94:46

the real beauty is is your bad shots are

94:48

better and as you know

94:49

i mean i'll go play around the golf and

94:51

i'll hit it good but that means

94:53

that means 70 of my shots are good and

94:55

there's 30 percent that i would

94:56

i'd want to do over but the 30 that i

94:58

miss hit are still

95:00

playable and pretty good and i can still

95:02

play really good golf because i'm never

95:04

too far offline and i think the key to

95:06

playing great golf is

95:07

not how many great shots you hit but how

95:09

many

95:10

of the shots that you hit badly that are

95:12

still pretty good and that's what what

95:13

i'm trying to do here is help people

95:14

create golf swings and build golf swings

95:16

that are certainly repeatable that have

95:19

less variables less variation

95:20

and then are super consistent yeah and

95:22

eliminate some of those double and

95:24

triple bogeys

95:26

yeah exactly awesome well

95:29

um i'm gonna go ahead and we're

95:33

we're done with the the q a i just

95:35

wanted to um

95:37

thank everybody for

95:41

for joining us tonight sticking around

95:42

we've still got quite a few people

95:44

uh still in here richard yes uh todd and

95:47

i uh

95:48

plan on working together more richard

95:50

said

95:51

it gives you and your brother tim a lot

95:53

of props

95:55

um and he appreciates you helping this

95:58

golf game

95:59

paul said thanks um and

96:02

i also um real quick todd

96:06

you sent me a link i have everyone going

96:09

if you guys hold on a second because you

96:10

guys are going to be

96:11

uh going somewhere right after this i'm

96:13

also going to follow up in an email

96:15

but maybe um talk to them a little bit

96:17

about um

96:20

the the the the link that they're going

96:23

to and what that

96:24

yeah so anybody who's new that wants to

96:25

learn a little bit about single plane

96:28

for just the cost of shipping we have a

96:29

little pocket guide that you can you can

96:31

get from us to kind of

96:32

guide you through we're trying to give

96:34

somebody a product where they can go out

96:35

to the range

96:36

pop the thing out and get and kind of

96:38

get a good single plane experience when

96:40

you're practicing for the first time

96:42

um but but look if you're if you're

96:43

really serious about getting involved

96:45

with single plane

96:46

um reach out to me or get a hold of me

96:49

through

96:50

any of our web portals or i'll give you

96:52

um i'll give you my email information

96:54

and get a hold of us

96:55

probably the most valuable product we

96:57

have in our company

96:58

is our online coaching which we've we've

97:01

spent years developing and by the way

97:03

we have you know we have thousands of

97:04

members of this already real really

97:06

my entire company is focused on coaching

97:09

people

97:10

no matter where they live a lot of

97:11

people think well i got to go to a golf

97:13

school no our online coaching is

97:15

extremely valuable we have people

97:16

sending in videos to our coaches

97:18

i mean we have hundreds of videos coming

97:19

in each day and we're really really good

97:22

at coaching people no matter where

97:24

they're at we have people in the uk

97:26

alaska all over the world that are

97:28

sending videos into our company

97:29

because we've really mastered the

97:30

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97:33

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97:34

through it and it's a great program so

97:36

really if people are really serious

97:37

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97:40

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97:44

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97:45

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97:46

for not much not much expense and and

97:48

plus you also get credits

97:50

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97:52

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97:54

so basically if you ever want to come to

97:56

a golf school this is really a free

97:57

program for anybody who joins so

97:59

that's kind of our main offering that

98:01

that's where i spend my time is really

98:02

working with the coaches

98:03

and coaching people all over the world

98:05

on a daily basis

98:08

yeah and we had multiple people here

98:10

douglas denton said it's a great program

98:12

jeff said the online fitting tool is is

98:15

a lot of people commenting on on the uh

98:18

the program and i would also

98:20

say that you know i reach out to for the

98:23

folks i've been in some of these in the

98:24

past

98:24

you know i've reached out to tons of

98:26

different coaches

98:28

i only work with people that i find that

98:30

are genuine and actually want to help

98:32

and i todd is such a great guy so you

98:35

know you're going to be backed by

98:36

someone who

98:37

actually is really going to take care of

98:39

you and support his product

98:41

and service so i'll say that as well and

98:43

everyone on here as i mentioned

98:46

i'll be giving todd to eat all your

98:48

email addresses and you guys can

98:49

continue communicating there

98:51

but if you have any questions for me or

98:53

you need to get in touch with me and ask

98:54

anything

98:55

um definitely um feel free to do so as

98:58

well

98:58

great thanks sean thanks everybody for

99:01

watching everything thank you

99:04

yup have a great night everyone

About the author

Shawn is the founder of UpGlove. He started UpGlove to solve his own problem of getting an affordable player's glove. Shawn is a single-digit Handicap and loves to play different courses throughout Tampa Bay. He also enjoys taking his two doggies Brutus & Champi for long walks.

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