Single Swing Plane in Golf [Video]

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i've been in tampa now for 17

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17 18 years now

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am i on yeah yeah how you doing good

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good awesome

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so we're gonna give it another minute or

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so guys and then we're gonna go and

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go ahead and get started sounds good

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yeah i'll move the chair and demonstrate

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here

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richard said it uh todd it's good to see

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you good to see you guys

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jack i i don't know if that's t-shirt

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weather but i'll take your word for it

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34 is pretty cold

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what was the weather there in in dallas

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bill

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yeah i don't think he's letting people

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he's not letting people chat he just has

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people he sees people

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kind of hop on there yeah

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35 to 40. richard said

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richard said long time gga member great

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instructor

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that's good

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jay said that he appreciates your time

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todd to go through the single plane

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approach

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thanks

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all right guys well we're going to go

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ahead and get started because i want to

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um

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i want to be cognizant of everyone's

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time here and especially todd for

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uh spending some time with us this

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evening

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um so happy to have todd happy to have

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all you guys

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and let's go ahead and get started

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so today's live program is all about

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swing like mo and the single plane swing

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that's why we brought todd graves

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in here nobody knows it better than todd

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and he's going to tell us why it's

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easier in changing the golf

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paradigm with the single plane swing

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and just a couple of housekeeping items

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here guys

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uh this is really for anyone who has an

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open mind about the golf swing it

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doesn't necessarily mean that you

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have to change into all going out single

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plane

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but i really want you guys to have an

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open mind what todd is going to be going

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over today

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um and also anyone who's just looking to

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play

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better golf there's probably some things

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that you can take away

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today to help you start playing some

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better golf

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and last but not least for a lot of you

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who have joined us in the past we're all

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about having a good time

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um we keep it pretty light and pretty

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fun and

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this event is going to be no different

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what we have on the agenda today is

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we're going to talk a little bit about

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mo norman who todd had a great

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relationship with

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we're going to talk about the single

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plane swing and todd's going to be going

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over some things there

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and then lastly we're also going to be

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talking a little bit about bryson d

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chambeau

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and then uh we're gonna leave about 10

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minutes or so

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for uh for some q a at the end of the

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session like we always do

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i know you guys might hear a little

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echoing going on that's because

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todd's in the studio so when he's

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presenting you guys won't hear that but

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just bear with us a little bit on the

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echo

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don't turn him down too much and then as

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i mentioned

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and then as i mentioned the um

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the chat box i'm reading all your guys's

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uh all your guys's chats and everything

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uh and i'll be navigating through all of

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that

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the reason why we have it closed is

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because we just don't want

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everyone getting caught up in the chat

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box going back and forth

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but i can see him that's why i'm calling

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all your names and

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your locations off and all of that

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all right so let's go ahead and get into

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this a little bit

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so i'm your host today i know a lot of

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you on here already know who i

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who is todd graves todd is the founder

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of graves golf

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and the the single plane academy he was

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taught by mo norman moon played a lot of

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golf with mountain

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he played college golf at oklahoma

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he coached at oklahoma and he also

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played on the

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canadian and asian golf tours and i

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think you might even play it on some

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other mini tours i'm not sure is that

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right tom i played anywhere

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like they let me tee it up for about 10

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years so yeah

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so i played a lot i played places that

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people don't want to play

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just to get out there i played quite a

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few different places yeah

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yeah so todd's got tons of great

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um golf knowledge that he's going to be

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uh

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sharing with us and like i said we're

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gonna

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we're going to talk about mo norman

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todd's going to show us some single

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plane swing stuff

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and then we're we'll talk a little bit

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about bryson d shambo who's also a

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single planer

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and then we'll we'll save a few minutes

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for some q a

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tom thanks for the great glove shout out

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yeah

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all right so let's go ahead and uh get

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started so

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todd i guess talk to us a little bit

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i started my academy i literally played

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this last year i kind of re-engaged the

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game and i probably have played more

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golf in the last

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six months than i've played in since i

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played on the tours

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and um and so now i'm back into the game

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this is a great product i just wanted to

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but yeah no no i i really appreciate it

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moe norman you know we get into the

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whole moe norman thing and

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look i i i found mo norman

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because of what so many people that are

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probably watching this show tonight

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are experiencing with the game of golf

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is i

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you know i played i played in college at

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the university of oklahoma i played

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uh i i played the asian tour in 1991

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which seems like an eon of go means

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forever

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long ago i was working with the best

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instructors that the game

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at the time that in the game the hank

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haney's the the david ledbetters the

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the tom anton's all these guys who uh

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billy casper

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it was a good friend of mine you know i

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was engaged in the game trying to figure

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out

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um how can i step up my level of play

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to be a the high quality player that i

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wanted to be

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you know i traveled the asian tour with

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todd hamilton and david toms and

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some of these guys now who are the

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senior playing on the senior tour

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but at the time they're the best players

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in the game and i i

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i have to admit i was a good player but

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i wasn't near the caliber of those guys

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as a player

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so i was always on in the i was always

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trying to become

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a better golfer and um

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and i kept getting worse the more that i

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spent time trying to figure out the golf

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swing and become a better ball striker

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and i always tell people no one has

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spent more money than me

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on trying to figure out the golf swing i

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was hiring every coach i could find the

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best coaches in the world i was

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traveling all over the world

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and i was just not getting anywhere i

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was at times i was even getting worse

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and there was this guy named moe norman

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that i didn't know

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at the time this was back in the early

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90s i knew of him

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there there was probably i had heard of

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mo norman

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he was this mysterious guy in canada

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that everybody had heard about

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uh but he didn't really exist he was

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just mythological character that

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hogan talked about how great a ball

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striker was but no one ever saw him play

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because

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he hardly played in the united states

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and so

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you know i was kind of the same way well

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i was basically at wit's end this is

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about 1993 or 94 i was at wit's end with

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with my game you know when you're a mini

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tour player like i was

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you're basically begging people for

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money to play golf i mean you spend your

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time

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finding sponsors you know i was

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basically running around trying to raise

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enough money and

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just to keep my uh career path going

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and i i had basically run out of money

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my sponsors i was living in dallas texas

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my sponsors had basically said hey you

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know

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you've had your couple of years to

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figure this thing out and now you

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probably ought to get a job you know and

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be getting get a

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get a get a career and a friend of mine

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named matthew lane matthew

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some people know who matthew is matthew

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was a college teammate of mine but

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matthew was probably one of the best

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golfers that i've ever played golf with

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i mean matthew was

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a super high level player he won the new

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zealand open he played on the tour

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matthew was and he's a good friend of

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mine today he was probably the best

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player that i've ever

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experienced as far as who i aspired to

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to play like matthew played the canadian

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tour

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in the early 90s and he came back in in

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94 and he showed me this videotape and

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he goes

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he goes you got to see this video of

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this guy mo norman he goes you got to

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watch this

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so i watched this tape and and

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it's funny when i watch this video

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because the guys watching mo hit golf

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balls

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were the guys who i've been competing

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against for the last three years on the

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tour i mean they're all the tour players

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and i kept thinking to myself number one

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his swing look remarkably simple

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and it it was very much on plane which i

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understood because

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i had spent the last three years of my

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life training with all these coaches

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talking about swing planes so i

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had a very good understanding of of what

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a good swing should look like

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but moe's golf swing was remarkably

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simple and it and it met all the

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criteria of

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of what i thought a great ball striker

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should should do and matthew said to me

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he goes

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this guy's so good he's a freak he just

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he hits it so good it's re it's

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ridiculous

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that was my introduction to mo now i

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didn't know who mo was at the time

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i had just known about him and then i

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had my these great

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my peers telling me about him and um

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so you know what i had this video taped

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and i took it out

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and i just started mimicking what i saw

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on that tape i just literally

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started copying whatever i could and i

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got to tell you this i mean the minute i

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got some of the concepts down which

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didn't take me long i started i was i

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immediately saw improvement i mean and

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for me to improve i mean i was a good

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player already

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but i just knew that i could this is

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something i could do because

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so much of golf instruction which is the

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world i live in is is

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teaching people and trying to improve

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people that world

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is very confusing i mean look for every

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youtube video i put out there that has

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some instruction i've

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for as many people that get some benefit

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from it get confused by it as well

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because there's so much information out

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there on youtube

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that you can just get caught up in

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where's my left hand grip where should

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my feet be how should my arms be

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position i mean

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it can go on and on right so that that's

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the world of golf construction and so

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when i saw

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mo doing this i said man that's just so

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simple

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um and i got benefit from just putting

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my body in the same position he did so

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when i did that

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i then i don't want to get into the

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whole long story of how i end up finding

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but anyway mo was doing a clinic in

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chicago illinois and i found out about

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it

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and i drove to chicago and now keep in

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mind i've been practicing his swing for

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about a year

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so i had been i had been you know i've

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been kind of trying to figure this thing

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out for a while

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so mo does this clinic and you know i

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tell people it's very hard to describe a

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mo norman clinic

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because you see this kind of at the time

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i was 64 years old so he was kind of

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past his prime but

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here he is um and this range was

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terrible i mean we were on a crappy

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range the ground

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the ground we were pouring water on the

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ground so it was soft enough for him to

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even take a divot because it was just so

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rock hard

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and here was mo just hitting literally

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just pure in it i mean

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i just can't tell you how amazing and

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look i played on

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these i had played with the best players

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in the world at the time

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and mo by far was equally as good as

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ball striker as i'd ever seen

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and here he was 64 years old and he's

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just like so simple so simple but

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and the flight pattern and the ball

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flight and the solidness of contact and

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all those things you look for in great

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ball striking

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and i was just fascinated by it but i

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had been kind of

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trying to figure it out myself so mo had

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if you ever saw mo to a clinic

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he would have his clubs scattered

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everywhere i mean he would literally

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it looked like somebody just took his

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bag and just dumped it out and i said

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hey moe you mind if i hit your 8 iron he

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goes go ahead go ahead and so i started

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hitting balls he goes hey looks like me

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without a belly looks like me without a

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belly

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so so that was kind of my first

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you know number one seeing mo hit golf

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balls in in person not just on a video

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but also being around him and his and

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just him kind of

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you know becoming friends with him and

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then learning and then from that point

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forward

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for the next 10 years before he died um

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i would go spend as much time as i could

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with them we'd play golf together

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i was very much in the learning mode

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trying to figure out you know

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how did you figure this thing out or you

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know and and all those things that

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that people consider idiosyncratic and

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putting the club behind the ball

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how much body tilt he has the width of

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the stance his arm alignment

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all those things and and to me i just

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don't

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i don't know if you can make you just

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can't make a swing easier than what mo

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was doing and and

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i i just i was always nothing more fun

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than grabbed 300 golf balls on a range

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with mo norman and let him go

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and start hitting golf balls you know i

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mean there was probably nothing better

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than that

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but that was what i spent 10 years doing

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and just getting to know him and

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and learn as much as i could and and

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then and then take that

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to take what i learned from owen to help

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other people um

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have some hope because really it's about

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helping other people simplify

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again because you know at the end of the

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day and we're going to talk about bryce

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and d chambeau at some point but at the

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end of the day it's not about bryson

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it's about

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it's about you and me walking out there

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and having a good time playing golf i

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mean it's about

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us stepping out there and having a good

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day and hitting some good shots and

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having fun and

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and um maybe getting some improvement

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wanting to come back to next week yeah

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yeah it's just about having a good time

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and if we can get better and have some

17:13

have a future in our golf game that's

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going to make us better and have more

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fun we get out of bed we go play golf we

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have a great time

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so i'm into that part of what i do i i

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i teach plenty of guys that are aspiring

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to be tour players and play

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competitively but at the end of the day

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i really enjoy

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spending my time with with the guys that

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you know

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the 65 year old guy that gets out of bed

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every day and he just wants to get some

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good shots with his buddies and

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take a few bucks off of him and play

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some good golf and that's what i've been

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able that's that's what i love to do

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that's awesome i find it fascinating

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that

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here you are you know like there's not

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too many people who can go play division

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one

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college golf then go play on

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professional tours um and

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you totally had this moment

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of this is i need to get better and you

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you went

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you didn't get like i guess like

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controlled by

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all these people to go down a certain

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path

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you found something and you were able to

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improve even though you were playing at

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i mean like if you were taking a

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percentage you were probably in the top

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one percent of golfers

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um and yet the the single point

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the single plane swing improved your

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golf game well i think

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i think one of the things that that you

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know i always think about this a lot

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as far as i look at golf instructors you

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know people think well

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you know other what other golfers

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instructors teach stack and tell all

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these other

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other things out there i look at all of

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it you know and i think the thing that

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that probably might be um

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the biggest issue that i the biggest

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difference that you're gonna see what

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what i might teach versus somebody else

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is i

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i teach a specific model i mean i i

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teach

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which it's it's the mo norman model but

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it's a single plane swing

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and you know people there's this like

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you've spent enough time in the golf

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world to know that there's this thing

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about

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oh he's a method teacher versus uh teach

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each person individually right and i'm

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i'm very much a method teacher and my my

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success

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comes from the method teaching that i do

19:16

now are people different sure people

19:19

look i i just had a couple nba guys

19:21

approach me to want me to help them

19:22

they're six foot six right

19:24

so we're all we're all different size

19:25

wise but at the end of the day

19:27

we're biomechanically very similar we

19:29

have arms legs

19:30

shoulders we rotate we bend we side bend

19:33

so so at the end of the day we're very

19:34

similar in a lot of ways even though

19:36

we're all

19:36

kind of built differently at times but

19:39

it but what comes down to is you know

19:41

if it the the methodology that i teach

19:44

if in the if i had to summarize what

19:48

does that really mean like what is a

19:49

method

19:50

a method is and i think this is good for

19:52

people to understand

19:54

that that it's not it's not that i'm

19:56

trying to sit there and put everybody in

19:57

the same box

19:58

it's that i understand biomechanics

20:00

enough to know that if you're going to

20:01

take somebody

20:02

and teach them let's take for example

20:04

the grip position that you can't just

20:06

talk about the grip without talking

20:08

about the arms

20:09

and you can't talk about the arms not

20:11

talking about the shoulders and you

20:12

can't talk about the shoulders without

20:13

talking about

20:14

maybe the upper body or lower body so

20:16

you notice how everything's connected

20:18

and and so too and this is why golf

20:21

instruction gets so deluded and

20:22

confusing because people will talk about

20:24

the grip

20:25

they'll go hey you need to have your

20:26

trail hand in this position but they

20:28

haven't talked about where the right arm

20:29

should be or the left hand should be so

20:31

now

20:32

you're only getting a piece of the

20:33

puzzle and now that piece of the puzzle

20:35

may not fit in with what else you're

20:36

doing and all of a sudden now you're

20:37

really a mess

20:38

so a method guy like me it's it's it's

20:41

making sure we call them matching up we

20:43

make sure everything's matching up like

20:45

is your upper body matching your arm

20:47

position or use your hand position

20:49

matching your arm position

20:50

is your lower body matching your upper

20:52

body position is your foot position

20:53

and so you can kind of see why a method

20:56

when you get these

20:57

positions in place then you can deliver

20:59

a club to the golf ball in a very

21:00

consistent pattern

21:02

and so that's that's my explanation for

21:04

why i'm a method guy

21:06

versus hey i got a guy who's slicing it

21:08

let's get him to straighten out the shot

21:09

we'll close the face

21:10

to me that's that's that's not solving

21:12

the problem that's band-aiding the

21:14

problem in a lot of ways

21:15

where you need a consistent solution and

21:17

that's what mode really mo norma did for

21:19

me

21:19

because i was one of those guys that was

21:21

always

21:22

band-aiding my approach i mean i

21:25

remember just an example you know i'm

21:26

working with hank caney and i love hank

21:28

and he's a friend of mine i i spent a

21:30

lot of time with him

21:31

but hank would one day be go stand

21:32

closer to the ball so i'd stand close to

21:34

the ball

21:34

and then a week later he'd get further

21:36

from the ball i'm like jesus

21:37

how far do i stand from the ball you

21:39

know i need i need something here

21:41

and it was always like this kind of like

21:43

we're playing with this i

21:44

need some uh i need a system here you

21:47

know and mo

21:48

mo provided that to me it's like your

21:50

body goes here your hands go here your

21:51

feet go here and this is and you deliver

21:53

and then then you know what happened is

21:55

i became good at it because i had

21:57

something that i it's either right or

21:58

wrong you know it gave me it gave me a

22:00

model

22:01

and that's that's why i'm a method guy

22:03

that's why i'm a model guy and

22:05

i i know for a fact that my success as a

22:07

teacher comes from

22:09

putting people into the model the closer

22:10

i get into the model the better they get

22:12

the further they get from the model the

22:13

more confused they get so

22:15

it's really not a hard thing but i think

22:17

some people have a hard time kind of

22:18

grasping that

22:19

that i'm that you're just teaching

22:21

everybody the same thing i'm like pretty

22:22

much

22:23

pretty much that's what i do right well

22:26

i mean if it works and that's kind of my

22:28

point the fact that

22:30

you were an elite player and yet you

22:34

found something that's even better

22:35

like where most people might not even be

22:37

willing to

22:39

actually try something because you were

22:40

such a good player

22:42

division one golf all the the the tours

22:45

and whatnot

22:46

and yet you were able to improve with

22:48

this with this single plane method

22:50

well it's funny because it was a train

22:52

wreck at first like i when i first kind

22:54

of tried to figure out most swing

22:56

i i i qualified i got my canadian pga

22:59

tour card which was a which was a feat

23:00

in itself

23:01

because i had to go to british columbia

23:03

to the middle of nowhere morningstar

23:05

country club

23:06

and i had to go through a qualifying i

23:07

finished 12th out of 35 players

23:09

and i have to tell you my swing was not

23:11

where it is like today i mean my swing

23:13

was

23:14

i i was my equipment wasn't very good i

23:16

mean there was a lot of a lot of things

23:17

that weren't going well

23:19

and i figured out a way to to break par

23:21

and and finish 12th on in the

23:23

on the qualifying school and then i now

23:26

also have a tour card

23:27

and i'm like i don't know what the hell

23:28

i'm doing with the tour card because i

23:29

really i mean there was a lot of stuff

23:31

that i was trying to figure out still

23:32

because i'd only been swinging like mo

23:33

for a year and a half

23:35

um but it was it was interesting because

23:37

players like a guy named david reuter

23:38

people probably don't know david but

23:40

david guys would they

23:42

people knew me as a player in college

23:44

and they saw me with this moan arm and

23:46

swing now

23:46

and it was like what the hell happened

23:48

to todd you know and it was like hey

23:51

i'm i'm figuring this crap out leave me

23:53

alone you know and i had guys like david

23:54

ruder who were like

23:56

like my bodyguards going leave him alone

23:57

don't don't give him you know come

23:59

in that was it was wacky you know i mean

24:00

it was like here's this

24:02

conventional golf guy who now looks like

24:04

this moe norman guy

24:05

and now he's trying to figure out how to

24:06

make money out here on the tour so look

24:08

it was a work i was a work in progress

24:10

but

24:10

but i needed to go through that um and

24:13

you know mo would show up at some of the

24:14

events and and we would talk through it

24:16

and

24:17

and um and it took me it took me two or

24:19

three or even four years to kind of get

24:21

to where

24:22

like my last year the last year i played

24:24

competitively it was 2000 2001

24:26

and i played only played six events and

24:28

i had a chance to win

24:30

six times with nine holes left that was

24:32

within two or three shots of the lead

24:34

so i kind of figured it out towards the

24:36

end where i could i was i was i could

24:37

get competitive again with

24:39

with a single plane swing but people i

24:40

think you have to understand competitive

24:42

golf it's not always about

24:44

i had great rounds where i'd missed a

24:45

cut you know i mean competitive golf is

24:47

a very

24:48

hard thing but but anyway i mean it's

24:50

just you know i

24:51

it took me a while to figure out um

24:54

for myself but then that was an

24:56

important process to me being able to

24:58

teach people as well and how important

24:59

it was

25:00

for me to be able to translate what mo

25:02

had taught me and what

25:03

i learned um to help other people

25:06

and and i know i'm going through a lot

25:09

of this stuff but one of the things that

25:10

i always tell people was like

25:11

they say well what was like the most

25:14

important thing you did

25:15

to to be able to teach

25:19

the single plane swing i was like i i

25:20

produced a video called the single plane

25:22

solution

25:23

and when you have to take everything

25:25

that you know

25:26

and put it into a 45-minute step-by-step

25:29

process

25:30

to give to somebody else that was a

25:33

entire alert it took me it took me a

25:35

year and a half to write this video

25:36

script

25:37

and then then we then it took us another

25:39

six months to actually produce it and

25:41

shoot it and get it right

25:43

um i was like you know when you do that

25:45

you kind of figure out

25:46

how to explain to people what's going on

25:49

with the swing

25:50

and to me that was the most important

25:51

thing i ever did was that's 2010

25:53

was was put this into a package where

25:55

because what happens is you

25:57

you want i want to be able to send

25:58

somebody a video and they actually

26:01

doesn't screw them up you know i mean i

26:03

mean that at the end of the day

26:04

you're just as concerned about somebody

26:06

getting information and trans and

26:07

misinterpreting it

26:08

because that happens all the time um so

26:11

anyway there's there's been it's been

26:12

quite a

26:13

adventure as far as from going from a

26:15

player to a teacher and all that kind of

26:16

stuff but it's

26:17

it's been a fantastic fantastic

26:19

experience it's been great

26:22

yeah that that's awesome i think it's i

26:24

think it's so

26:25

crazy too how you saw a video of bo and

26:28

then yeah

26:29

you know years later here you are

26:31

playing with him

26:32

becoming really good friends and him

26:34

teaching you it's uh

26:35

that that that's like that's like

26:37

everyone's dream

26:39

is to meet like gosh i want to be like

26:41

this guy or learn from this guy

26:42

then you got to actually do that that's

26:44

not it trust me it's

26:46

i i think about all the time i miss mo a

26:48

lot i mean it was it was a great

26:49

experience and

26:50

man i wish i could ask him some

26:52

questions now it's like he's been he

26:53

passed away in 2004

26:55

there's so many things i want to talk to

26:56

him about right now but it's it's

26:58

interesting

26:58

yeah it was a great experience it really

27:00

was

27:02

and before we move on um for you to

27:05

start

27:06

showing us and teaching us and helping

27:08

us learn the single playing swing

27:10

uh you you told me as a story

27:13

about mo one time when we first talked

27:16

about

27:17

how he he went into you guys were at a

27:19

uh

27:20

i think a um you guys were at some kind

27:23

of golf

27:24

clinic or or um some kind of golf show

27:28

and he stepped into um into like one of

27:32

the simulators and

27:33

and and for his swing speed well so you

27:36

know everybody has this thing about mo

27:38

where

27:38

they see his swing and most most people

27:40

don't see a swing when he was younger

27:42

now if you go

27:43

i put some swing uh some footage up

27:44

there from the mid 80s and stuff

27:47

so you know you can kind of see a

27:48

younger version of mo but a lot of

27:50

people thought that mo didn't hit it

27:51

very far

27:52

you know mo when i i i measured him at

27:56

107 miles an hour because we are

27:58

as you mentioned in the story we were

28:00

walking through the

28:01

uh the golf show and you know at the

28:02

time think about this back in the early

28:04

90s

28:05

no one was out there with trackman in

28:07

the in the early 90s right i mean

28:08

that's this this all the technology's

28:10

kind of emerged in the last 10 years

28:12

but in in the early 90s i mean you

28:14

couldn't even find stuff to measure your

28:15

swing speed only way you could ever do

28:17

that

28:17

would be to go into these labs at

28:19

callaway or you know these places that

28:21

had the sophisticated enough equipment

28:23

well they just so happened to have some

28:24

of this equipment at the pga show so we

28:25

said hey mo hop in there

28:27

and he was swinging at 107 miles an hour

28:29

at age 64.

28:30

now the average the average champions

28:32

tour player is at 106

28:34

currently so that's right for a 64 year

28:37

old guy

28:38

and and so you know i don't know you

28:40

know wally uline

28:42

the ceo of titleist of acoustnet he he

28:45

he was one of those pallbearers at his

28:47

funeral we we're having breakfast and

28:48

wally said

28:49

you know not only was moe you know his

28:52

golf swing was

28:53

was technically so good but he got the

28:56

most

28:57

out of the golf ball when he hit it so

28:59

combine that with with a relatively high

29:01

swing speed for a 64 year old guy plus

29:04

plus the spin rates and the launch

29:07

angles and all the things he was doing

29:08

right to launch a golf ball

29:10

he could hit a ball 300 yards with 107

29:12

mile an hour club head speed

29:14

now that might not be a lot today

29:15

because because the whole world is all

29:16

about you know

29:17

bryson and all these people hitting it

29:19

so far but efficiency

29:21

and you know if you ask me right now

29:24

look i know distance is an important

29:26

thing we all want to hit it farther it's

29:27

it's a big deal but nothing's better

29:29

than

29:30

consistently hitting it uh correctly

29:33

over a course of a round at the end of

29:35

the day that's going to shoot lower

29:36

scores than

29:37

the occasional 320 hour drive so i i

29:40

always

29:40

hold this distance thing at arm length

29:42

saying look you want to be efficient

29:44

you want to be you want to hit can if i

29:47

give you a a 5 iron

29:49

you want to hit it 185 yards every time

29:51

you hit it you don't want to hit it

29:52

170 and 190. i mean there you're gonna

29:54

have a problem so right

29:56

so to me it's it's i'm i'm very much on

29:58

the on the uh

30:00

spectrum of i'm trying to help people

30:02

build very good consistent golf swings

30:05

because that number one that's where

30:06

speed comes from but number two that's

30:07

where you're going to play your best

30:08

golf over time

30:10

and that's going to take some efficient

30:11

movement which i'll be happy to talk

30:12

about as far as golf swing stuff but

30:14

so i'm not into the whole distance thing

30:16

i think it's great i think

30:17

we should all work on good golf swings

30:20

to hit it far but i'm you're not going

30:21

to see me

30:22

you know out there trying to hit it

30:23

trying to get all my students hit at 350

30:25

yards

30:25

i don't i'm not into all that i'm just

30:27

i'm into period technique as mo

30:29

would say right you know i just thought

30:32

i thought that was just a fascinating

30:34

story still at 64 though

30:36

to for him to get up to that that speed

30:39

i mean

30:39

that's that's impressive and even more

30:41

impressive like you said that

30:43

he was hitting fairwin it was so it's

30:46

hard to explain but it was just so

30:47

efficient

30:49

and it was the same flight the same

30:50

pattern um

30:52

and that's why you could drop a blanket

30:54

out there you could hit drives to be out

30:55

there you know 260 to 280 yards

30:57

just right in the same area i mean just

30:59

the flight and

31:00

what i always tell people too is when

31:03

you look at a round of golf like if you

31:04

go play

31:05

18 holes of golf you know your good

31:08

shots are going to be your good shots i

31:09

mean we all hit good shots right

31:11

it's really how good your bad shots are

31:13

you know it's like you

31:14

like you hit a is your shot go 40 yards

31:17

left or five yards left

31:18

and the five yard left one's fine it's

31:20

on the left side of the green the 40

31:21

yard left one is the one that you make

31:23

you know double with

31:24

so so it's really and where you know

31:27

that's that's dispersion patterns

31:28

getting going from here to here

31:30

and how do you do that well you can only

31:31

do that with technique the only way you

31:33

can do that is technique you can't

31:34

you can't sit there and and think your

31:36

way through your dispersion patterns

31:37

you're either going to hit it on a

31:38

pattern or you're not

31:40

and so mo is incredibly that that's

31:42

really what fascinating

31:44

me about mo is like his dispersion

31:45

patterns were just in here

31:47

i mean you could play you can play golf

31:49

with them all day long and he's just

31:50

like in this window the whole time you

31:51

know it's just

31:52

yeah the confidence you have when you're

31:55

when your

31:55

misses aren't even that bad is i mean

31:58

that really improves your golf

32:00

uh before we move on real quick just

32:03

pierre pierre asked a question and um

32:07

he said if you only had one question for

32:09

mo what would it be

32:11

that's a good question let me think um

32:17

one one question to ask him now that i

32:18

didn't already ask him uh

32:21

let me think that's a good question um

32:29

you know i asked him three questions

32:31

when i met him

32:33

i had three questions lined up the first

32:34

was how did you figure out

32:36

how to do that like how did you figure

32:38

out your swing like what was your

32:39

process

32:40

the second question was um how long did

32:44

it take you

32:45

how long did it take and funny it's

32:46

funny thing is these are the questions i

32:48

get asked all the time when i teach is

32:49

how long is it going to take me to

32:50

figure this out

32:51

um you know how did you and if i had to

32:54

ask him a question now

32:56

it would probably be on the lines of

32:59

it would be the same question i get

33:00

asked all the time it's like mo right

33:02

now what would you do right now if i

33:04

wanted to

33:04

learn your golf swing what should where

33:07

should i start what should i do right

33:08

now like how can i get this as fast as

33:10

possible

33:11

because that's the question that that

33:13

you know as coaches

33:15

people are asking us for swing advice

33:17

like people ask me about the grip

33:19

set up things like that but what they're

33:20

what people are really asking is

33:23

is how can i learn this faster like how

33:26

can i get this

33:27

faster like i don't want to go hit a

33:29

million golf balls like moted to figure

33:31

this out and i don't want people to

33:32

either so

33:33

and that's another whole reason why i

33:35

teach a model because

33:36

here's here's my perspective is yeah you

33:38

can if you want to

33:40

you're more than welcome to go hit 800

33:42

balls a day like mo did

33:44

for five years and you'll end up with a

33:46

probably a pretty decent

33:48

move at a golf ball or you can just copy

33:50

the best in the world and in a very

33:52

short period of time as long as you copy

33:54

it

33:54

relatively correctly you can end up with

33:56

a golf swing in a lot less period of

33:58

time

33:58

so i'm about speeding up the process as

34:01

well which is why

34:02

which is why i copied mo to begin with i

34:04

wanted to speed up the process i wanted

34:05

to stop the guessing

34:07

and to me the minute we stopped guessing

34:09

and the minute we go to the model and

34:11

and you can look at and go hey this is

34:12

exactly where mo is

34:14

you're improving like that that's how

34:16

fast you can improve so

34:18

so to me it's all about speeding up the

34:19

process and i would always be trying to

34:20

ask more questions about speeding up the

34:22

process

34:23

what's the next thing that's going to

34:24

get me there faster yeah that's that's

34:26

what everybody really wants

34:27

yeah um so

34:30

todd i'm going to go full video mode on

34:33

you and then maybe you can walk us

34:35

through a few things that you wanted to

34:36

cover for everyone today

34:37

i'll go through a few things real quick

34:41

so one of the things and i kind of

34:42

mentioned this a minute ago

34:44

when we talk about the golf swing and

34:46

i'll kind of step you through

34:48

from a dress position um into

34:52

swing mechanics and i'll kind of work in

34:54

order when

34:56

when i teach the golf schools or i teach

34:58

people in

34:59

kind of a formal setting i always make

35:01

sure people learn things in the proper

35:03

sequence

35:04

and the reason i do that is because um

35:07

because everything that you that you

35:09

learn relates and i'll get more into

35:11

that in just a minute but

35:12

but you can't just say okay let's talk

35:14

about lower body move because the lower

35:16

body is going to move relative to how

35:17

you position the feet

35:19

and how you position the upper body and

35:20

things like that so we have to work in a

35:22

proper order

35:23

the second thing that i think is

35:24

important to understand is i talk about

35:27

grip and how you hold a golf club

35:29

secondary to body position

35:31

now that's a little counterintuitive

35:35

to what most people teach most people

35:37

teach grip first

35:39

and if you read if you look at if you go

35:41

into barnes noble right now and you go

35:43

look at all these books

35:44

the first thing they start out with is

35:46

grip and so i i i'm kind of counter to

35:49

that because

35:50

the way you place your hands on the club

35:52

is a direct relationship to club face

35:54

but it also relates to your arm position

35:56

so you must to me

35:58

you have to talk about the position of

36:00

the body

36:01

and the hands together and when you look

36:04

at mo

36:05

and you look at a single plane swing and

36:06

you look at especially mohs technique

36:09

what you see is because of his body

36:11

position

36:12

and because of the way his hands are

36:14

placed on the club

36:16

you get this alignment of the lead arm

36:17

and the club

36:19

and then from a down the line view you

36:21

get another alignment see the alignment

36:22

of the trail arm in the club now

36:24

these two lines this alignment here

36:28

and this alignment here are a function

36:31

of

36:33

my tilt of my body the rotation of my

36:36

arm

36:37

and the rotation of my trail arm so you

36:39

can notice that

36:41

the grip body position and arm position

36:43

are all very related

36:45

to get into this what we call ideal

36:47

single plane address position where the

36:49

club is lined up with the lead arm

36:51

see that alignment there and then from a

36:53

down the line view

36:55

the club is lined up with the trail arm

36:57

now you'll notice from that down the

36:59

line view that this arm

37:01

is visible above that arm and it's not

37:03

visible and and this is where

37:06

when you start instructing people and

37:08

you're trying to get some clarity on why

37:10

you're seeing this it's not because my

37:13

arms are lifted higher because that's

37:14

what everybody tends to see

37:16

they see oh moe's all hands are higher

37:18

if you actually had mo

37:19

today and this is one of the questions i

37:21

asked him was like moe how do you feel

37:23

at a dress he felt like his hands were

37:24

underneath him well

37:26

that's kind of counter-intuitive to

37:27

people thinking well my hands are

37:29

lifted up high and it's because when

37:31

he's side bent this is called

37:33

side bend that's tilt side bend

37:36

notice how my arm comes up this leads

37:38

shoulder goes higher

37:40

all right well that arm goes higher but

37:41

it actually brings this arm lower

37:43

and those two things create a single

37:46

plane alignment with that club so now

37:48

you got the lead arm lined up

37:50

and you got the trail arm lined up so

37:53

what you're going to see in the reason

37:55

that i kind of focus

37:57

on the model which i mentioned earlier

37:59

is because

38:01

the the hand position this hand being in

38:03

this rotation which i'll talk about in a

38:05

minute

38:06

this hand being in this rotation the the

38:08

bend of the body

38:09

side bend it's everything's related it's

38:12

all related to

38:14

uh the address position in the grip and

38:15

you can't you can't single out

38:18

one thing and say well mo is a great

38:20

ball striker because of his grip

38:22

you have to look at all the metrics

38:24

together so having said that

38:26

let's kind of walk you through and i'm

38:28

going to do this without a golf club for

38:30

just a second

38:31

when i put my body in that position so

38:33

here's what i'm here's what's actually

38:35

occurring

38:35

and i try to back i try to back up

38:38

everything i teach

38:39

with a little bit of biomechanics in

38:41

other words you know i don't want people

38:42

to get too confused by

38:44

what does biomechanics really mean but

38:46

but it's just i want to back things up

38:48

with

38:48

with some some some realistic things

38:50

that you go that make you

38:52

on your head go oh that makes a lot of

38:53

sense so what when you go like this with

38:56

your body so if i take you and i

38:57

and i put you in a side vent just like

38:59

moe norman which is about 15 degrees of

39:01

side bend

39:03

and i isolate what i'm gonna i'll talk

39:05

about a second if i isolate this

39:06

arm and the way i do that i just want to

39:08

grab my grab my upper arm and not let it

39:10

move

39:11

you'll notice that i can only move my

39:13

hand so far

39:14

so you're going to see that because of

39:17

side bend because of shoulder and upper

39:19

arm isolation

39:20

i only have so much range of motion of a

39:22

lead arm

39:24

and let me ask you this question the

39:27

most important

39:28

moment of a golf swing is when you get

39:31

to this moment of impact right

39:33

we all want to get to this impact where

39:34

the face is square the hands are leading

39:36

and we're able to produce speed on a

39:38

golf club if we can get there

39:39

consistently

39:40

we can hit a golf ball consistently well

39:43

i want to help you get get to the impact

39:45

position but i don't want you i want to

39:47

create limitations of movement

39:49

and out and this is where maybe what i

39:52

teach is different than what a lot of

39:53

people teach

39:54

how do you create a limitation of of the

39:57

body

39:57

in other words if i said to you i'm

40:00

going to mistake proof your movement in

40:01

other words

40:02

you can swing as hard as you want you

40:03

just can't go to the wrong position well

40:05

here's how i do that

40:07

by giving you side bend of the body

40:10

right

40:10

it isolates the shoulder because of the

40:12

band you can only you can only move the

40:14

shoulder so far

40:15

it's isolating the lead hand position so

40:17

now

40:18

as long as you're side bent and you turn

40:20

you can only go

40:22

to that spot all right now i'll give you

40:24

some other examples

40:26

my my lead we teach the lee knee being

40:28

slightly flexed

40:30

we want the foot to be rotated and the

40:32

knee to be flexed

40:34

i want this foot on the ground watch

40:36

what happens so now if i'm

40:38

side vent and i rotate the back of the

40:41

hand goes to the target remember that's

40:42

your club face

40:44

and now i can only go so far with my

40:47

lower body

40:48

so now what i have is i am basically

40:51

only able to go to this position at

40:53

impact

40:54

and i can swing as much as i want as

40:56

long as i'm side vents

40:58

my foot's down my in my knees flexed i

41:00

am hitting a position

41:01

the only position that my body can go to

41:05

this is the foundation of what moe

41:07

norman did because

41:08

by by positioning his body knee flex

41:12

foot down

41:13

side bend upper upper hand position

41:16

there's one final thing that he did

41:17

which is really interesting

41:19

is when you do this and you go in the

41:21

side bend notice what this hand does it

41:23

goes into a non-rotational position

41:25

this would be similar to hammering a

41:27

nail or whatnot

41:29

so now what you're getting is you're

41:31

getting this

41:32

the easiest motion that the body can

41:34

produce and you're creating limitations

41:36

in it

41:37

so it can only go to those positions

41:40

now you add speed to that and now so

41:43

what happens now i'm going to add speed

41:44

to a golf club

41:45

and so i put my body in those positions

41:48

there's my lead arm position

41:50

my side bent my trail hand position

41:54

and now when i swing as long as i hit as

41:57

long as my body stays in those positions

42:01

it the club has to square up because

42:03

it's the it's the only place

42:05

that the body can go so you just saw me

42:09

walk you through the golf swing

42:11

by creating limitations in the body

42:15

and so that's really where this that's

42:17

really where the success of mo came from

42:18

because

42:19

i asked mo this question i said

42:23

i said mo how do you be become so

42:26

consistent and his only answer ever to

42:28

me was

42:29

hit your positions so i had to go what

42:32

are the positions

42:33

that you have to hit well the address

42:36

position because that's that

42:37

and when i say address that includes

42:40

foot position leg position upper body

42:42

position

42:42

arm position all the things i just

42:44

mentioned and then

42:46

the position of the body's bend side

42:48

bend rotation

42:49

the position of the body bent knee foot

42:52

down

42:53

side bent body and then the position of

42:55

the finish and if you're able to hit

42:56

your positions which mean

42:58

all the positions of the body the club

43:00

can only go

43:02

into one path and that's really i mean

43:06

i could go into a lot of detail i'd be

43:07

happy to answer any questions that

43:09

anybody has

43:10

but that's really the foundation of why

43:13

if you asked

43:14

a simple question and said well why was

43:15

moe such a great ball striker

43:18

is because he couldn't make a mistake

43:21

because of the way he was positioning

43:23

his body it created limitations

43:25

in what was possible in other words his

43:27

club could only go to a square position

43:30

because of the way his hands and body

43:33

placed

43:33

were on the golf club his foot position

43:36

because of the knee flex the foot down

43:38

his lower body could only go so far so

43:41

to me

43:42

how you move is just as important as the

43:45

position of your body to restrict

43:46

movement

43:47

you have to look at both sides of that

43:49

equation it's not about

43:50

you know so often people say well rotate

43:52

more no that's not the answer

43:55

rotate the correct amount with the body

43:57

in the correct position so

43:59

there's a lot of things i'd be happy to

44:00

answer if people have some questions

44:02

about

44:02

yeah now real quick before like um

44:06

that was kind of mind-blowing to be

44:09

honest with you like

44:11

i i never heard anyone put it in that

44:14

perspective

44:15

with the um with the limitations

44:18

but it's so practical and makes

44:22

so much sense what you just said and

44:24

it's and it's funny because

44:27

everything that you hear i guess if you

44:30

want to call it

44:31

traditional golf is

44:35

more about like how open can you get

44:38

at uh at impact and all these things and

44:41

and it's all been like you know all

44:43

these players have

44:44

different um different degrees that

44:47

they're open

44:48

tilted all this stuff but it it's

44:52

it's always usually about like how much

44:54

more hip that

44:55

can you get how much more uh open can

44:58

you get an impact to reduce

44:59

club face rotation etc

45:02

and you never heard anyone just explain

45:06

that like we want to limit

45:08

limit some of your movements so you can

45:10

just be

45:11

consistent and efficient

45:14

well watch this for just a second

45:16

because because one of the things that

45:17

was so important for me in my learning

45:19

process was to

45:20

was to spend time with guys that are

45:22

much smarter than me

45:24

in the understanding of how the body

45:25

actually works and if you you know guys

45:27

like greg rose with tpi

45:28

and these guys that really are into the

45:30

biomechanics of the swing which by the

45:31

way

45:32

i knew nothing about five years ago i

45:33

mean i was literally just was teaching

45:35

mohs swing and saying hey

45:36

this is the best way to do it and now i

45:38

know why mo's swing

45:40

was so efficient and so good but one of

45:42

the things they explained to me and i

45:43

think it was a great explanation that i

45:45

needed to hear

45:46

if you actually look at a good golf

45:48

swing you what you

45:50

what what a biomechanics a person who

45:52

understands the kinematic sequence of a

45:54

swing will show you is

45:55

is the swing's kinematic sequence have

45:56

you ever seen a kinematic sequence

45:58

before

45:58

yeah yeah so so most coaches and people

46:02

have seen these kinematic sequences

46:04

which are just

46:04

graphs that basically are mapping body

46:06

movement in the speed of the body parts

46:08

well what's interesting about a

46:10

kinematic sequence chart which we don't

46:11

it's detailed and it's fun to look at

46:13

and i love looking at this stuff

46:15

but what's so fascinating about a

46:16

sequence chart is you're seeing movement

46:19

but what you need what you really are

46:21

focusing on is how

46:23

body the body is producing speed so

46:26

we all want to make sure that when we

46:27

hit a golf ball that when we get to a

46:30

certain point

46:31

we can accelerate the golf club through

46:32

impact and make sure it's square at the

46:34

moment of impact

46:35

so it's really about what's happening in

46:38

this area through here

46:39

so the next question that you have when

46:41

you're understanding biomechanics

46:43

is how is that happening like like this

46:46

is a this is a question you sit in a

46:47

room with biomechanics guys and go okay

46:49

you just produce a lot of speed in your

46:50

arms how did that just happen

46:53

and it's an interesting question because

46:56

you get to the point where it's like

46:57

okay

46:58

the arms are moving but they had to move

47:01

around something

47:02

like they're just not you can't have

47:04

arms just freely moving

47:05

so what what you come what you end up in

47:07

the conclusion is

47:08

was you got to stop this to let this to

47:12

allow this to move you have to stop that

47:15

to allow that to move and you bet matter

47:17

of fact you have to slow the arms down

47:19

to let the hands move so you start

47:21

focusing on what's stopping

47:23

you start focusing on what what's

47:25

allowing the next part to accelerate

47:28

so if i had to give you an analogy it

47:30

would be a horse race

47:32

and the horse race would look like this

47:34

there would be

47:35

so let's just look at the golf swing for

47:37

a second in the sequence of events

47:39

you have the lower body moves first

47:40

right there's that stabilization of the

47:42

lower body

47:43

and then you have the body turning and

47:45

then you get to a point where

47:47

in conventional golf they post up you

47:49

see this a lot in our swing you you hit

47:51

into a flex knee

47:52

which is safer we like that better but

47:54

then you've got the upper body turning

47:55

but then

47:56

look look what happens to my body about

47:58

right here if i'm

47:59

side bent and people can stand up out of

48:02

their chair and try this

48:03

you can't really turn more than that i'm

48:05

talking torso here

48:07

the only thing left to move from this

48:08

point is the arms and the shoulders can

48:11

start moving past the body

48:13

so in other words you get here's what

48:14

happens you get lower body movement

48:17

torso movement arms and shoulder

48:19

movement and then you have the

48:20

completion of the sequence of events

48:23

so what allowed that to occur where did

48:25

that start well it started right here

48:27

it started when the lower body stopped

48:29

here and said you know what todd

48:31

i'm only going to let you go this far

48:32

i'm not letting you go anymore the only

48:34

thing that you can move now is the right

48:35

side of your body

48:36

okay the right side of my body okay now

48:37

what what's next

48:39

well i can't move the right side of my

48:40

body anymore so what can go oh the arms

48:42

can go

48:43

and all of a sudden now you have a

48:45

perfect sequence golf swing

48:46

and it's because of what stopped not

48:49

because of moving more

48:50

and that's really the biomechanical side

48:53

of that horse race of the horse race of

48:55

lower body upper body arms hands than

48:57

club

48:58

it's that horse race that's happening

49:00

from the top of the swing

49:02

and the question that i always had for

49:04

these biomechanics guys was

49:06

was this it's like how is the upper body

49:10

using the lower body like how is the

49:12

torso able to

49:14

to now rotate with the lower body

49:16

stopping and then when i get to this

49:18

point here

49:19

how do the arms accelerate if the upper

49:21

body is stopping

49:22

and they're using the next body part so

49:24

the horses they're in the horus race

49:27

and the torso the pelvis takes off first

49:29

so here's the pelvis goes first

49:31

then the torso then the the arms and

49:34

then the hands

49:35

so you have this four the sequence of

49:37

events but the torso

49:38

the the pelvis is out first the torso

49:41

second

49:42

arms are third hands or forth well

49:44

here's what happens

49:45

this pelvis that goes first and then the

49:48

torso goes you know what

49:49

i'm going to grab on to that pelvis

49:51

right here

49:53

and i'm going to use it to move and so

49:55

what it does is it grabs onto that

49:57

pelvis and then the arms go you know

49:58

what i'm going to grab onto that torso

50:00

and so each additional body part is

50:03

grabbing the next one

50:05

and using it but here's here's my point

50:07

to this

50:08

if it's not stable if i for example

50:12

turn my pelvis and i don't stabilize it

50:14

the torso has nothing to work

50:17

against so then it says you know what

50:20

todd

50:20

um i can't i can't move i can't

50:23

accelerate

50:23

well guess what the arms are going to

50:25

use the torso and the torso is like i'm

50:27

not stable can't use me

50:29

and then people cast early and they

50:30

release the club and then also they lose

50:32

all the speed

50:33

so people who want to produce more speed

50:35

which might be the conversation that we

50:36

have about bryson

50:38

it's really not about moving more it's

50:41

really about moving more efficiently

50:44

stopping this in the correct way moving

50:46

this stopping this in the correct way

50:48

and then moving that so it's that

50:50

sequence of events that people have to

50:51

get better at

50:52

which is the biomechanics of the swing

50:54

but i mean i'm in in a way i've kind of

50:56

explained that without trying to get in

50:58

too much detail

50:59

that's awesome man yeah that that makes

51:01

a lot of sense if you

51:02

if you want um todd what we can do is i

51:05

did get a few

51:05

questions maybe we can answer those here

51:09

because it's uh they're all swing

51:11

related

51:13

um so j

51:16

ass did uh mow grip in the palms or the

51:20

fingers it was difficult to tell from

51:22

the videos i've seen

51:24

yeah now it's a good question i mean i

51:26

get that question all the time and

51:28

here's the thing about it

51:30

it was in the fingers but pay attention

51:34

more

51:34

to um hand rotation and

51:38

if i would have thought about i would

51:39

have brought mo gave me a bunch of his

51:40

club so you could see his grip size

51:42

pay more attention to um the rotation of

51:46

the body position

51:47

more than is it in the palm or is it in

51:50

the fingers

51:51

so let me just kind of do a quick

51:52

demonstration because i want to explain

51:53

this a little bit

51:55

um if you look at mo's address i'm going

51:58

to grab the shaft of the club

51:59

uh yeah i'll just grab the shaft of the

52:01

club and you can see that i'm actually

52:03

holding the

52:04

shaft i'm not even holding the grip so

52:05

this is the thinnest part of the club

52:07

and i can easily hold that just like mo

52:11

norman did

52:11

that club is aligned exactly where most

52:13

club was aligned with my trail arm

52:16

and it's exactly lined up with my lead

52:17

arm so there's no reason

52:19

that i can't properly align a golf club

52:21

with my arms and my hands

52:23

holding the shaft now i'm going to take

52:25

my hands off the club for a second

52:27

and you're going to notice that that

52:29

shaft is running through

52:30

this part of my hand so i'll come closer

52:33

to the camera so you can see that

52:34

so look where it's running through my

52:36

hand that would be considered more

52:37

towards the fingers of the hand

52:39

now what i'm going to do is i'm going to

52:40

move this grip into my hand

52:42

and you're going to see it start filling

52:43

up my hand and you're going to say now

52:45

well

52:46

that might be a little more towards the

52:48

palm of the hand

52:49

and then i'll come up to the top of the

52:50

club and okay now it's more towards the

52:52

palm

52:52

so to me the important part is that the

52:56

shaft

52:57

is going through the proper part of the

52:58

hand and the the palm

53:01

idea is always based on grip size if you

53:04

look at bryson for example

53:05

massive grips on his club right and yeah

53:08

they're going to go right up into the

53:09

palm of the hand they're huge grips

53:11

they'll fit right up in the palm of the

53:12

hand

53:13

but so of course it's like if i was

53:14

holding a water bottle

53:16

that thing would fill up my entire hand

53:18

but the shaft line

53:19

is still going through that part of the

53:21

hand which you

53:23

here's where you run into a problem if

53:25

the shaft line runs too high into the

53:27

hand

53:28

and this is this would be the shaft

53:30

running through the palm now i got a big

53:31

problem here's why

53:33

because now i cannot leverage this golf

53:36

club

53:36

i can't produce an angle and it's

53:39

because

53:39

this shaft has to be under this is the

53:42

radius bone of your arm

53:44

it has to be under that radius bone to

53:46

produce a leverage angle see what

53:48

happened there

53:49

and and so there's a lot kind of to this

53:51

and people get

53:52

way too caught up in palm versus not

53:55

palm

53:56

i am not a big grip in the palm guy

53:59

because it bases on grip size

54:01

what i want to see people do is get the

54:03

proper hand rotation

54:04

so that means body position

54:08

hand rotation the club being under the

54:10

radius bone

54:12

and then look at this hand notice how

54:13

when i tilt this hand goes into a

54:15

rotation

54:16

this hand is now under the club now i'll

54:18

do this again with you

54:20

watch where this club is placed even

54:22

though see how it's lined up with my

54:23

trail arm perfectly into a single plane

54:25

alignment

54:26

however my palm isn't anywhere near the

54:29

golf club it's actually running through

54:30

the fingers

54:31

but it's the rotation of the hand that

54:34

keeps it lined up with the arm

54:36

right so be very careful on this whole

54:39

palm idea

54:40

because what people are doing is they're

54:42

getting very thin grips normal grips

54:44

trying to grip these in the palm

54:45

reducing leverage and everybody runs

54:47

around saying i'm hitting it so short

54:49

there's no reason you should lose speed

54:51

but if you start going palm palm with a

54:53

thin

54:53

grip the shaft the shaft plane gets out

54:55

of alignment with the arm it's

54:57

you know it's biomechanics but you're

54:58

going to run into some problems but good

55:00

question

55:00

i get that a lot chris asked is the

55:03

speed and the downswing created

55:05

late

55:08

well any kinematic sequence shows you

55:11

that yes

55:13

all speed is well late being see late is

55:16

a term

55:16

uh late is a sequencing term right if

55:20

i say late when in late in the sequence

55:22

so if you

55:23

let's just look at it because because

55:27

what's happening is the speed of the

55:29

pelvis starts first so you're going to

55:30

see the pelvis move first

55:32

then you're going to see the torso move

55:34

second and then you're going to see the

55:35

arms moving down and then

55:37

the final speed the late speed is

55:40

the hands the arms and shoulders

55:43

delivering the club so the hands arms

55:44

and shoulders delivering the club

55:46

so yes it's a it's late relative to the

55:48

pelvis it's late relative to the torso

55:50

so that's a timing question the answer

55:52

is absolutely

55:54

um that's a very easy thing to see both

55:56

on video and

55:57

if you're doing any biomechanics work

55:59

but the so i guess maybe

56:01

the answer to that is let's look at the

56:02

feeling of that and i always realized

56:04

related to this

56:06

it's like once your lower body is stable

56:07

that means you moved into that lead side

56:10

and i can turn as much as i want and

56:12

then i'm going to release the arm so

56:14

what you're getting there is a release

56:16

of the arms what i would say

56:18

in the latest moment possible so that

56:21

yes the answer is yes it is a late

56:23

feeling of the arms and hands

56:25

delivering the club at the last part of

56:26

that sequence awesome

56:28

randy asked to comment on grip pressure

56:32

he said the single plane works for him

56:34

when he has a relaxed grip it doesn't

56:37

work when i grip

56:38

too tight so

56:42

so grip pressure and here's what i

56:44

always mention to people about the grip

56:45

is that

56:46

your hands cannot do anything to a golf

56:49

club except hold on to it

56:50

so if you look at if i'm holding a golf

56:53

club the hands

56:54

by themselves cannot move a golf club

56:57

and so i mean the only way i can move a

57:00

golf club is to let go of the club right

57:01

but as long as my hands are holding the

57:03

club

57:04

they have no function and movement at

57:06

all so they're literally just

57:08

clamps now how does that when you talk

57:10

about grip pressure what does that mean

57:12

well

57:13

if you add pressure to these clamps

57:15

you're actually adding pressure to the

57:16

wrists

57:17

so the wrists are now locked and that's

57:20

what keeps people from having

57:23

and so well what happens is and it's

57:25

exactly what i talked about a few

57:26

minutes ago

57:27

is when you freeze the wrists you're

57:30

actually freezing the arms which affects

57:32

how the shoulders

57:33

so basically when you add pressure it's

57:35

not about the hand pressure that's

57:37

really the problem

57:38

it's really about how much tension get

57:39

put into the arms and shoulders and now

57:41

you're not freeing up the movement when

57:43

you let those hands have a little more

57:45

less pressure now see how my my arm can

57:48

bend

57:49

which it couldn't do when the wrists

57:51

were locked and now the arm can

57:52

straighten so now you can use the arms

57:55

to the hands

57:56

and wrists correctly and the hands

57:58

because you reduce the pressure

57:59

allow the arms and wrists to work and

58:01

that's really what i think

58:03

the question is right it's yeah you can

58:05

add too much pressure but it's not the

58:06

hand pressure that's the problem

58:08

it's the way it's restricting the

58:09

movement of the arms and the wrists

58:11

so i'm i'm not saying i'm a light

58:13

pressure guy i think you got to hold it

58:15

pretty good with the lead hand

58:16

but i'm a very light wrist right wrist

58:19

pressure because

58:20

i always relate it to this if you're

58:21

going to skip a rock

58:23

you don't you hold the rock in the end

58:24

of the hand right so the rock's here

58:27

and you're in and by the way you're

58:28

tilted and now you're going to skip a

58:30

rock and it's a it's a non-rotational

58:32

skip

58:32

but you can't you can't grab the rock

58:34

with with all your pressure

58:36

and expect it because it's too much

58:38

pressure and you're not going to be able

58:39

to use the wrist

58:40

so think about skipping rocks when

58:42

you're holding a golf club just enough

58:43

pressure to

58:44

to skip the rock or skip the golf club

58:46

and that's going to allow the wrist to

58:47

work great

58:48

so think about risk pressure not

58:50

necessarily hand pressure that makes

58:51

sense

58:51

uh lee asks did did mo norman hit

58:55

fades and draws or only straight shots

58:58

yes yeah i got that question a lot so

59:02

i played i was going to tell you this

59:03

quick story uh one of the last rounds i

59:05

played with mo

59:06

we we used to play in titusville all the

59:07

time at a club called royal oak

59:10

and the you know it's pretty not a hard

59:13

golf course but you know it's kind of

59:14

fun

59:15

and one day i'm playing with mo and he

59:16

keeps hitting it like he went straight

59:18

right into the right trees then he hit

59:19

it on the green and then

59:20

the next hole was left and he was

59:22

hitting it not down the middle of the

59:24

fairway

59:24

and i'm about six holes into it and i

59:26

said hey mo you know what's going on he

59:27

goes i found all the shortcuts

59:29

and so what he was doing was he had

59:31

played the chorus and he could find

59:33

shorter angles and he would literally

59:34

hit it in the rough on purpose

59:35

because he could hit it between the

59:36

trees he was hitting eight iron where i

59:38

was hitting five iron and things like

59:40

that because i was sitting down the

59:41

fairway having long shots into the

59:42

greens

59:43

moe hit it generally 90 of the time he

59:46

hit it straight

59:48

if at any time i asked him to fade it

59:49

and draw it he could fade it and draw it

59:52

now i want to talk about shaping golf

59:55

shots

59:56

and and i play a lot of golf now by the

59:58

way i play a lot of golf

60:00

and i'm gonna i'll i'll say this with um

60:02

because

60:03

you can check out my youtube channel i

60:05

play i play rounds of golf on my youtube

60:06

channel

60:07

the only time i allow a golf ball to

60:10

shape

60:11

is when i'm i'm letting the wind help

60:13

its shape so in other words

60:15

i never try to force a shape of a golf

60:17

ball around a tree

60:19

i mean okay so maybe i hit it in the

60:20

trees and i gotta hit a hook but even

60:21

that

60:22

trust me those are when i'm usually in

60:24

trouble and i usually end up hooking it

60:25

back into the trees and i

60:26

hit a bad shot so 99 percent of the

60:30

shots that i play are a straight shot if

60:32

they move any direction it's because i

60:33

let the wind do it

60:34

and i recommend and this is just my

60:36

recommend as a coach

60:38

is stop worrying so much about hitting

60:41

draws and

60:42

fades and absolutely learn to hit a golf

60:43

ball straight because once you learn to

60:45

hit a golf ball straight

60:47

then 90 of the shots you're going to hit

60:49

for the rest of your life are going to

60:50

be straight at targets

60:52

and then the one the 10 that you want to

60:54

curve it aren't going to even matter

60:56

because half the time you want to curve

60:58

it it's

60:59

because you're in trouble anyway so i

61:01

always tell people look i i want you to

61:03

hit a straight pattern at a golf shot

61:04

i want you to build a straight pattern

61:06

and then let the wind move it if it

61:08

needs to

61:08

but your best golf will be played when

61:10

you can predict

61:12

a straight shot the people who are out

61:14

there curving balls one direction or the

61:16

other

61:17

the reason you're curving a golf ball is

61:18

because you don't know how to hit it

61:19

straight and so you're trying to predict

61:21

its pattern

61:22

and so a guy who's trying to hit a draw

61:23

is just like at least i know what's

61:24

going that way

61:25

and a guy who's an affair at least i

61:26

know what's going over there so it's all

61:29

about

61:30

our goal as to become better golfers is

61:32

to develop a predictable pattern

61:35

and so i'm always working with students

61:37

build a straight pattern the game gets

61:38

so much easier

61:39

than trying to predict the left pattern

61:41

or right gotcha

61:43

thomas asks uh if you make any

61:45

adjustments to the swing for a pitching

61:47

wedge versus a driver

61:51

uh to the swing no the mechanics of the

61:53

swing are exactly the same but obviously

61:55

you know a pitching wedge obviously it's

61:58

a much shorter golf club and so

62:01

the the um so you don't have as much

62:04

centrifugal force because the club's

62:06

closer to the body because it's a wedge

62:08

so the only difference would be stance

62:10

width

62:12

and by the way let's look at something

62:14

real quick this would be kind of

62:14

interesting

62:16

uh this is a this tool right here by the

62:19

way

62:20

is one of our basic training tools it's

62:21

our alignment trainer has it tells you

62:23

where your

62:24

ball position should be your foot

62:25

position for each club in your bag so

62:28

this is just a little training tool that

62:29

we

62:29

we train with nice i'm gonna put the i'm

62:32

gonna put the ball position right here

62:34

for iron ball position and that's right

62:36

here and look at this for a second so

62:38

here's my lead foot position

62:40

and that ball position with the wedge is

62:42

five inches inside my lead foot so

62:44

my lead heel is five inches okay keep

62:46

that in mind

62:48

now this is a pitching wedge and if you

62:49

look at me with a pitching wedge you're

62:51

going to look at well that ball is about

62:53

the middle of your stance right just

62:54

about the middle

62:56

now when i go to hit i'll go i'll grab a

62:59

i'll grab a

63:01

uh let's grab a four iron

63:04

i'm gonna leave the ball position where

63:06

it's at so i'm not changing ball

63:07

position i'm gonna leave my lead foot

63:08

where it's at

63:09

but i'm gonna move my four my foot wider

63:11

for a four iron

63:13

now you're going to see that ball

63:14

position looks much more forward here's

63:16

a wedge

63:16

looks like it's the middle and here's a

63:19

four iron okay

63:21

the ball position didn't change so this

63:24

is this is what's important

63:25

but it actually did change because if i

63:28

go to hit a wedge i want you to watch my

63:30

lead shoulder

63:31

so here's my wedge now watch my four

63:33

iron you see my lead shoulder what

63:35

happened to my lead shoulder

63:37

yeah it goes it goes back that way right

63:40

so effectively even though the ball is

63:43

not moving

63:44

relative to my foot it's moving relative

63:46

to the shaft angle

63:48

see that right so so

63:52

people always say well you know moe

63:54

would say i don't move the ball position

63:55

well he didn't move the ball position

63:57

but he adjusted the trail foot based on

63:59

the club he was hitting

64:00

so this wedge watch what happens now

64:03

because of the ball positions here

64:05

look at how much shaft length i have in

64:07

that wedge okay let's call that 10

64:08

degrees right i don't know what that is

64:09

let's call that 10 degrees right

64:12

at impact let me grab my 4 iron again

64:16

now wider stance look what happens now

64:19

at impact

64:20

you have less than 10 degrees because

64:22

you're more behind the golf ball

64:24

and the club now launches at a higher

64:26

angle and

64:28

of course a four iron you can't have 10

64:30

degrees de-lofted and before iron so

64:33

basically moe figured out that just by a

64:35

slight adjustment of his trail foot

64:37

he could adjust it for each club so the

64:39

answer to the question is yeah i'm

64:40

adjusting my trail foot position

64:42

based on the club that i'm hitting but

64:44

i'm leaving the ball position in the

64:45

same place gotcha

64:46

awesome uh we got a few more here if

64:49

you're

64:50

if you're good with that todd yeah uh

64:52

pierre asks um

64:54

do you know why this swing is not um is

64:57

used as much on tour besides uh bryson

65:02

i i really don't have i've never had a

65:04

good answer for that question other than

65:06

the way golf golf is taught now it's you

65:09

know there's this thing out there

65:11

i almost i read a lot of golf

65:13

instruction articles and they throw a

65:14

term around

65:16

which i still don't think that this term

65:18

is the right term but they call it the

65:20

athletic position at address

65:22

right it's like the athletic position

65:24

well what is that well if you ask any

65:26

conventional golf instructor

65:28

he's going to show you well the athletic

65:30

position is you bend your knees a little

65:31

bit

65:32

you get stable you hang your arms

65:34

straight down

65:35

and so they're going to show you this

65:36

athletic position however you look at

65:38

anybody at impact

65:40

and they're nowhere near that

65:43

athletic position and the reason i bring

65:45

this up is because

65:46

this whole idea of hanging the arms

65:49

straight below the shoulders

65:50

is where 99 of golf is being taught

65:54

but but we don't impact a golf ball with

65:56

our arms below our shoulders we impact

65:58

the golf ball with our arms

66:00

lining up with the club shaft so

66:03

it's the way golf is taught it's taught

66:05

from a it's taught from a two-plane

66:07

position

66:08

and then there's all these varieties of

66:11

solutions for a two-plane position

66:13

and i'll give you what i mean by

66:14

solution is if you look at

66:16

lee westwood for example his both feet

66:19

are off the ground

66:19

going into impact everybody is trying to

66:23

solve a problem and i call it the one

66:25

mistake

66:26

the one mistake is if you start in an

66:28

athletic position which i don't think is

66:30

athletic but let's just call it that

66:32

if you start with the arms hanging down

66:33

you got a problem because

66:35

when you move a golf club it's the force

66:37

of the club is moving away from you it's

66:39

going to try to

66:40

line up with the arms so we have to come

66:42

up with a solution for that

66:43

well moe figured it out i mean he

66:45

figured out that all you got to do

66:47

really

66:47

is make sure the club is lined up with

66:49

the arms to begin with and then you no

66:50

longer have the problem that's why he

66:52

was

66:52

such a great ball striker and the guys

66:55

who tend to find this solution

66:57

sergio garcia and guys who are a little

66:59

more like this

67:01

steve stricker and now bryson you get

67:04

there they're going to have a better

67:05

chance of getting to the impact position

67:07

so you're starting to see guys out there

67:09

that are

67:09

getting closer to this and my my

67:12

contention is always

67:13

the guys who are the closest to being on

67:15

the impact plane to start

67:17

are always going to be the better ball

67:18

strikers they got a lot less movement of

67:20

the shaft going into impact

67:22

but i mean i don't know a good answer to

67:23

why more guys aren't doing it other than

67:25

it's the way golf is taught

67:26

it's taught to hang the arms straight

67:28

down and and the other thing too i could

67:30

mention

67:31

is that i've played competitive golf

67:34

i've been on

67:34

plenty of tours i've done so much in the

67:37

game of golf

67:38

ball striking is an important part i

67:40

love it i mean it's it's i focus on it

67:42

it's part

67:43

it's it's it's what i do i love teaching

67:45

people i love watching people improve

67:46

their ball striking

67:47

but it's only a piece of the game the

67:49

guys who win out there on tour

67:51

are good ball strikers but they're

67:52

chipping and putting remarkably well i

67:54

mean if you got to focus on the people

67:56

putting well um so there's so many

67:58

elements of the game that ball striking

68:00

is just a piece of the puzzle and so

68:01

we can focus i love the golf swing i

68:03

want everybody to hit it solid and

68:04

straight but at the end of the day you

68:05

got to make putts

68:07

as i know i played a money game the

68:08

other day and i three putted the ninth

68:09

green and lost

68:10

all the money on the last hole because i

68:11

three put it so so you can lose your

68:13

money from putting and i hit it really

68:14

good too by the way

68:15

well that that's a good point though

68:17

because the vac the

68:19

the the shaft does go more vertical at

68:22

impact i've seen

68:24

people talk about that a lot about how

68:26

this the shaft does go more vertical

68:28

uh to your point yeah so if you're

68:31

starting here

68:32

you're gonna you're gonna see guys

68:33

they're impacting on a higher plane

68:34

right

68:35

so they're having to an upward movement

68:37

of the body well

68:38

there's a lot that goes on to make to

68:40

get the club to do that now

68:42

look there's a lot of good ball strikers

68:43

out there i've played with plenty of

68:44

them and guys can learn hit it well but

68:45

and that's just a piece of it

68:47

it's this is a much easier motion mo

68:50

figured out that if he

68:51

if he put the club now keep in mind that

68:53

i'm tilted because we talked about that

68:55

but if i put the body in the correct

68:57

position that this straight line right

68:59

here

69:00

going into a golf ball is much easier

69:02

than starting here

69:04

and figuring out a way to get that to

69:06

occur so so mo just figured out

69:08

a more direct path to hitting a golf

69:10

ball and that's why

69:12

i mean that's why i i was attracted to

69:13

it because i saw an incredibly efficient

69:15

way to hit a golf ball

69:16

uh dave was wondering uh if there's uh

69:20

how much torque is on the front leg

69:24

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69:25

well i i don't know if i can quantify

69:28

torque

69:29

um i don't know if anybody quantifies

69:31

torque but

69:33

torque torque is is force and rotation

69:36

and there is a lot more torque in a

69:39

conventional swing than what we teach

69:42

and i'll tell you why because i i always

69:45

recommend that people have a rotated

69:47

foot to start with

69:48

at least 30 degrees because what happens

69:51

is now the lead

69:52

see the lead knee can can flex towards

69:55

the foot

69:56

and now there's very little torque on

69:58

the lead leg but here's here's

70:00

here's a danger zone that i think people

70:03

have to be careful of and

70:04

look when i see this when i when i coach

70:06

i'm like oh crap when i see this

70:08

when i see people with a straight foot

70:10

on the lead foot

70:11

now we have a problem because now we're

70:13

asking for pelvis rotation

70:15

but now we got a knee that's out of

70:17

position to rotate so now you have

70:18

torque so if you want to get torque off

70:20

the lead foot

70:22

you've got to rotate it this way so that

70:23

the knee can

70:25

it's already in a rotated position it's

70:27

it's it's opening it

70:28

opening itself up so now it's less

70:30

torque so

70:31

there's very little torque in what i

70:33

teach but i know if you have your foot

70:35

straight you're going to feel torque

70:36

which i wouldn't recommend

70:37

okay uh steve was asking uh in

70:41

in your book that you described the

70:44

first thought of the down swing should

70:46

be the front knee

70:47

shift to the toes can you explain when

70:50

this

70:51

when this move should occur in in the

70:53

sequence

70:54

yeah no i love that question um so in my

70:57

book

70:58

i i'm gonna if i could put an amendment

71:00

in that book here's what i would do

71:02

because

71:03

th this was it's actually the first

71:05

thing that happens is yes

71:07

from the top of the swing the knee goes

71:08

towards the toe but i want to ask that

71:10

same

71:11

biomechanical question is how the heck

71:13

is that happening right i mean

71:14

i always ask that question because it's

71:16

the how that's happening that's

71:18

important not that it is happening

71:19

we can watch we can watch all types of

71:22

things go on the swing but i want to

71:23

know

71:24

why it's occurring and i want to go

71:27

i want to take a step back and look at

71:28

the backstreet for a second because

71:30

when i go to the top of my backswing

71:32

you'll notice that i'm working against

71:34

the inside of my leg

71:35

and the inside of my trail foot now the

71:37

reason i bring that up

71:39

is because when i i can easily

71:42

move my pelvis over into that knee see

71:44

that that's what i talk about in the

71:45

book is that

71:46

you want to see the knee go towards that

71:48

lead toe

71:49

it's like you're stepping into a shoe

71:51

but i can't step into a shoe if i don't

71:53

push off of my

71:54

trail leg so so i want people to spend

71:59

you know this is my this is part of my

72:00

coaching is i want you to pay as much

72:02

attention to what happens in the back

72:04

swing

72:05

as you do in that first movement into

72:06

that knee because if you are out of

72:08

position in the back swing let's say you

72:10

shift over

72:11

i am not in a position to move into that

72:14

knee

72:14

does that make sense right so so to me

72:17

the backswing position this is why most

72:19

had hit your position here

72:21

because then now it's so easy to move

72:23

that transition

72:24

into that lead knee that's me moving my

72:27

pelvis

72:27

into that knee that's a lot easier well

72:30

and by the way

72:31

if you get shifted like this you can't

72:33

do it so

72:34

that makes that movement easy and

72:36

whoever is asking that question

72:39

if you're having trouble with your

72:40

transition look at your backswing

72:42

position

72:43

first before you start trying to get

72:45

over into that knee because

72:46

most likely it's a backswing issue not a

72:48

downswing issue

72:49

awesome uh jeff i think um

72:52

todd kind of addressed some of the

72:54

advice on wedges and

72:56

and partial shots with ball position

72:59

i don't know if you wanted to add any

73:00

one last thing there

73:03

yeah well the wedge game so

73:07

one of the things i've done this year

73:08

which has been a heck of a lot of fun

73:09

for me

73:10

um i've worked i've worked heavily on my

73:13

wedge game

73:14

and i've worked a lot on my putting

73:16

which is something i wish i would have

73:17

done a lot more when i was playing

73:18

competitively by the way

73:19

but but um but the wedge game look

73:23

if we we it's a partial swing it's

73:26

you're not

73:27

it's not a speed thing it's it's a

73:28

distance control thing

73:30

you're going to see the ball position is

73:31

still in the same spot but i got a very

73:33

narrow stance because i'm not making

73:34

let's say i'm hitting a 40 yard wedge

73:36

shot

73:36

i'm also choking down on the club

73:38

because i want to reduce the speed of of

73:40

the the club this is a 58 degree club

73:43

and now what you see is i put my body in

73:45

a position to where

73:47

the club's not going to go as fast and

73:49

my body is open and i can take a partial

73:50

swing

73:51

and then accelerate the club to hit the

73:53

shot but what i do

73:54

is i work on the length of my back swing

73:58

and i gauge it by my lead arm so

74:00

so if my lead arm is here that's what i

74:03

call 730

74:04

and then i accelerate the club the ball

74:05

goes 40 yards with my 58 degree club

74:09

if i go to nine o'clock right here see

74:11

my lead arm at nine o'clock

74:12

this club goes 60 yards and i've done

74:15

this with each club in my bag

74:16

and i am magical when it comes to my

74:18

wedge game i mean you get

74:20

i can get anywhere between 102 yards

74:23

with my pitching wedge

74:24

inside 35 yards and i have a gauge

74:27

exactly for that shot so that's kind of

74:29

how i i mean

74:30

i didn't i want to get into a whole

74:31

wheat conversation here

74:34

but that's how i gauge my wedges because

74:36

here's the way i look at it

74:38

nobody is good at feeling a wedge shot

74:42

and here's why i say that um a good

74:45

friend of mine dr gill morgan do you

74:46

know dr

74:47

no i don't so

74:50

i get to spend a lot of time with dr

74:52

gill we hit balls all the time together

74:54

and he's an eye doctor like he's an eye

74:56

doctor guy and we talk about this all

74:58

the time is that

74:59

everybody sees things differently we see

75:02

slopes and shadows and

75:04

and uh and no one's really good at

75:07

understanding distances very well

75:09

how many times if you stood over a wedge

75:11

and tried to feel it in there and hit it

75:13

either

75:13

way short of the green or you hit it 40

75:15

yards past the flag it's like what just

75:16

happened

75:17

right and so if we can find ways where

75:20

we're not so reliant on

75:22

our vision and more reliant on just the

75:25

movement of the golf club

75:27

we can dial in the distances we hit a

75:28

golf shot this has really helped me a

75:30

lot

75:31

in the last year so with my wedges but

75:33

but having said that

75:34

i think you have to come up with a

75:36

system and if i if i had a suggestion

75:39

for anybody that's watching this tonight

75:41

here's what i here's what i would ask

75:42

you to do as a coach this is this is the

75:44

coach speaking here

75:46

um and i when i when i have time to what

75:48

i mean by time is if i have players like

75:50

that i know i'm going to see more than

75:52

once i always ask them this question i'm

75:54

like

75:55

i want you in the next six months to

75:58

pretend i gave you a folder and in that

76:00

folder i said this is how todd graves

76:02

plays golf

76:04

and i want you in that folder create a

76:06

section for how you play the game how do

76:08

you

76:08

how do you swing a golf club how do you

76:10

hit a wedge how do you hit a putt

76:11

how do you read a green right show me

76:14

how you play golf

76:15

and i want and so if i ask you this

76:17

question six months from now i said i

76:18

want you to give me your folder

76:20

i want to see how you play guess what i

76:22

can coach you now because

76:24

because now i can show you how to okay

76:27

that's how you hit a straight shot let's

76:28

go hit a curve

76:29

i can show you how to manage a golf

76:31

course now because now i know how you

76:32

play golf

76:34

i don't think anybody really has a good

76:36

grip on how they play

76:37

they play what i call chaos golf or

76:39

random golf they go out there like

76:40

what's going to happen today

76:41

you know how do you warm up for how do

76:43

you warm up for a round how do you

76:45

prepare for a round

76:46

um you know what is your what is your

76:47

process for reading a green

76:49

all these things that that good players

76:51

if you look at what good players

76:53

every good player can say oh i'll tell

76:54

you exactly how i read green let's say

76:56

exactly

76:56

how do you hit a drive down a fairway do

76:58

you have a process for hitting a fairway

77:00

it's an interesting question right i

77:02

mean if i said to you

77:04

there's a hundred thousand dollars right

77:08

and if you hit the fairway you get that

77:09

right you're gonna go like this you're

77:11

gonna go like okay wait wait wait wait

77:12

hang on a second i gotta make sure okay

77:14

you got to make sure you hit the fairway

77:16

okay how are you doing that what okay

77:18

pretend you have

77:19

what process is going to give you the

77:21

absolute best percentage chance of

77:23

hitting the fairway well that's what you

77:24

need to figure out like what is that

77:26

process

77:26

right and see good players have figured

77:28

this out whether it's intuitively or

77:30

from lots of competitive golf or lots of

77:32

experience

77:32

but if you tell any good player that

77:36

every and every given time that you got

77:38

to give yourself your best chance on

77:40

every shot you hit they have a process

77:41

for it right

77:42

so i always tell people that i'm

77:43

coaching is like man you got to start

77:45

thinking about these processes like how

77:47

do i

77:47

i have a process for how i hit a golf

77:49

shot and i use it every time i hit a

77:51

golf shot so i

77:52

it's not hard for me to hit a golf shirt

77:53

because i walk in there i step in

77:55

i take one waggle two waggle when i hit

77:57

you know it's my process

77:58

and it's hard for me not to use that

78:00

process but it gives me my best chance

78:02

of hitting the best shot so i think a

78:04

good piece of advice for people out

78:06

there is

78:07

is look you got to start thinking

78:09

through

78:10

what are your answers to those questions

78:12

like what what

78:14

if i if you had to hit a fairway what

78:16

process do you use

78:17

if you had to hit a 40 yard wedge shot

78:20

five feet from the hole

78:21

how do you do that show me the process

78:23

and you'll start rethinking

78:24

um you'll start rethinking what you do

78:27

and you'll get better now i think that's

78:28

that's really sound advice

78:30

i'm going to do a couple more here guys

78:32

i want to be cognizant of everyone's

78:34

time here

78:34

um lee asked an interesting question he

78:37

said um

78:38

comment on the difference between jim

78:39

hardy's one plane swing

78:42

and mo norman's one plane our single

78:44

plane

78:45

they seem to be very different

78:49

you know i got to be a thousand percent

78:50

honest with you i haven't spent a lot of

78:52

time looking at jim hardy stuff i do

78:53

know

78:54

that he spends most of his um

78:57

one plane concept matching up shoulder

79:00

shoulder plane with arm plane

79:03

that's where he spins that's where he he

79:05

dictates whether the arms and shoulders

79:07

are matching up with their plane

79:08

that is very different than what i'm

79:10

talking about with the single point

79:12

swing

79:12

what i what i talk about in in

79:16

in the single plane swing that that mo

79:18

norman that i teach with moe norman is

79:21

is look if i set up like this

79:24

and i and i put you in the proper

79:26

address position

79:29

this uh you can see easily that the club

79:31

is lined up with my right arm

79:33

okay so i have that line up that will be

79:35

the exact same plane that the club ends

79:37

up at impact so i'm matching this plane

79:39

with that plane that is my definition

79:42

that's what bryson does by the way

79:43

that is my definition of single plane

79:45

and why why is that such an important

79:47

concept for me

79:49

because if you look at um

79:52

i have to go back to biomechanics the

79:54

spatial relationship i have to a golf

79:57

ball for example you can get too far

79:58

from the ball right

79:59

so if i'm in the correct spatial

80:01

distance from the ball

80:03

my lower body my spine and my upper body

80:05

can repeat their position

80:07

so it's really about my spatial

80:09

relationship to the golf ball

80:10

that makes it very easy to repeat my

80:12

impact position

80:13

so to me if i want to if i ask you the

80:15

question what's the easiest way

80:17

to strike that ball on the ground with

80:20

this stick

80:21

you're going to put your body in a

80:22

position with the stick that allows this

80:25

to realign consistently that's why my

80:28

feet are on the ground

80:29

and that's why my lower body is in the

80:31

same position so i'm just simply trying

80:33

to

80:33

i'm trying to put the body in a position

80:35

that simplifies impact

80:38

when i wrote my book we started out

80:41

with impact talking about impact because

80:44

the most important moment in a swing is

80:46

impact

80:46

well the entire anybody who's trying to

80:49

hit a golf ball better

80:51

only cares about one thing can i get the

80:53

club consistently to impact and that's

80:55

that's really what the whole purpose of

80:56

this whole thing is

80:57

right so everything you learn in a golf

80:59

swing

81:00

whether it's hand position arm position

81:03

body position

81:04

should be related on is that helping me

81:06

get to this moment of impact in a more

81:07

consistent way

81:09

so that's really the the answer to to

81:11

the whole equation is

81:12

what mo figured out was well if i put my

81:15

arm in my body in this position

81:16

it allows me to recreate that club shaft

81:19

position

81:20

and my face squares up every single time

81:22

i have

81:23

people have seen me do this but i i

81:24

created a

81:27

the reason this product this is my

81:28

single plane trainer

81:30

it's probably a little hard to see

81:32

against this white background but

81:34

um what this what this is just a

81:36

basically i'll put it down here so you

81:37

can see it's basically a five foot long

81:39

stick with a grip

81:40

on it but what it does is you'll notice

81:42

that it creates a lead side relationship

81:44

yeah

81:45

and it re it recreates that that same

81:47

impact position

81:49

so basically what people don't what

81:50

people can get from this

81:52

is that the golf swing is lead sided see

81:55

how the hands are leading

81:57

so it's a left-sided delivery of a golf

81:59

club which if you look at it from here

82:01

it's going to recreate the plane every

82:03

single time so we call this a single

82:05

plane trainer

82:06

so it's it's a relationship of the lead

82:08

side of the body

82:09

and recreating the impact plane this is

82:12

actually the base

82:13

best training tool we have because it

82:15

teaches you

82:16

how to lead with the hands and how to

82:18

create a swing plane

82:20

which this is a basic product that we

82:22

use quite a bit

82:23

ken said he practices with it all the

82:25

time says it's a great

82:27

product jeff said uh thanks todd because

82:29

you answered his question your book

82:30

saved my game can't wait to work on a

82:32

wedge system

82:35

awesome all right yeah i think i think

82:37

it's great if

82:38

you guys start it's a good time in the

82:39

winter time to start thinking about

82:42

think about if i did if i said hey in in

82:44

three months to five months

82:45

i want you to be able to if i ask you

82:47

the question show me your golf game

82:49

show me what you do to to play a round

82:51

of golf how do you hit a tee shot how do

82:53

you

82:53

how do you execute an approach shot how

82:54

do you hit a wedge shot how do you hit a

82:56

bunker shot

82:57

you know if you had solutions for those

82:59

this is my process i use

83:01

you watch how fast you can get pretty

83:02

good at this game awesome

83:05

all right so we got a couple more here

83:07

and then uh we'll probably slow things

83:10

down here guys um

83:13

uh what um paul asks is there any

83:16

adjustment that you make

83:17

on a side of a hill ball above or below

83:19

your feet

83:22

well so yes i mean there's a couple ways

83:25

you can deal with side hill eyes number

83:26

one is

83:27

it you'll notice that if you take a club

83:29

off of its plane so

83:31

this club is designed i'm gonna grab

83:33

something out of my bag real fast

83:34

if you um

83:39

no all i have is a white tee i know if

83:40

we can see this very well but if you

83:42

take a club so this club is designed

83:43

this is a 7-iron

83:45

it's designed basically on this plane

83:47

lie angle versus shaft plane

83:49

and if you take any club and let's say

83:52

the ball is above my feet so basically

83:54

the ball is above my feet

83:55

so you'll notice it flattens the shaft

83:57

plane out well even though the face may

83:59

still be square

84:00

it will aim that face straight to the

84:02

left you can you guys can experiment

84:04

with this take a club off of its plane

84:05

and see where the face angle goes so

84:07

basically side hill lies

84:09

are trying to compensate for the shaft

84:12

being off its plane

84:13

and so there's there's really a number

84:16

of ways you can do this

84:17

number one you can just aim more to the

84:19

right and let the ball hook right i mean

84:21

that's like the fastest way to do it

84:23

that's that's that's the simplest way is

84:25

yeah

84:25

basically i'm not changing my swing i'm

84:27

just gonna let the club i'm gonna put my

84:29

body

84:30

on the plane of the the ball and where

84:31

the ground is and i'm going to swing on

84:33

that plane

84:34

and by the time i get to impact the ball

84:36

is just going to cruise over to the left

84:37

or

84:38

you know curve to the right if it's

84:39

below my feet now

84:41

i'm going to i'll take it to my advanced

84:43

level all right

84:45

let's say that there's a bunch of water

84:46

to the right

84:48

and you're aiming right to the right and

84:50

if you don't quite hit it solid

84:51

and the ball doesn't spin to the left

84:53

it's going i don't like kitten at the

84:54

hazards no one should be hitting it a

84:55

hazard

84:55

i think that puts the hazard into play

84:58

is there a way to make up for this

85:00

problem i have of the shaft being above

85:02

the plane and the answer is yes

85:04

i can put the ball back in my stance and

85:06

effectively

85:08

when i hit that ball the face is open

85:11

right right

85:12

effectively because it's back in my

85:14

stance so

85:15

in other words let's pretend the ball is

85:17

above my feet

85:19

and and i and that's going to go to the

85:22

left if i put the ball back in my stance

85:23

see that no longer goes to the left

85:25

so basically the ball position being

85:27

back has compensated for the face aiming

85:30

left

85:30

that's my advance way so now i can aim

85:32

at the target put the ball back in my

85:34

stance and i hit it with an open face

85:35

and it goes straight

85:36

careful with that one you gotta play

85:39

around with it because

85:40

just because you're on a side hill lie

85:41

doesn't mean the ball has to curve but

85:43

you got to figure out something to do

85:44

with the face

85:45

there's a lot of ways to do it but from

85:47

a swing mechanic standpoint i don't

85:48

change a thing

85:49

it's exactly the same thing it's it's

85:51

going to be body position is the same

85:54

you're just adjusting for whatever the

85:55

the plane of the shaft is on

85:57

and you're making the same swing motion

85:59

you just got to compensate for whatever

86:00

that face angle is doing at impact

86:02

all right so we got the final final

86:05

three questions here guys

86:06

um uh jerry was asking about the stack

86:10

of tilt versus the single plane

86:15

yeah i mean i once again i i look i i

86:17

look at the stack and still stuff

86:19

i don't some of it's okay i think that

86:22

i'm i'm very much into the health of the

86:24

spine and the ideal position of the

86:26

spine here's what i do know

86:28

at impact so let me just go through one

86:31

thing really quickly

86:32

a little more into the detail there's

86:34

three metrics of the body

86:36

there's what we call bend of the body

86:37

bend to the body is when the body is in

86:39

this position

86:40

bending this way or this way uh or the

86:42

or the pelvis is bending this way or

86:43

this way

86:44

there's side bend of the body and that's

86:46

this this axis when the body's in this

86:48

in this bent this way or side bent this

86:50

way and then there's obviously the

86:51

rotation of the body and there's another

86:53

one called thrust which is

86:54

the body moving forward and backward now

86:58

when it doesn't matter if you talk stack

87:01

and tilt it doesn't matter if you talk

87:02

about anybody else's method

87:04

the golf swing is those three metrics i

87:06

mean you're gonna have to deal with

87:07

those three metrics of the body

87:09

the way i deal with those metrics is i

87:11

what i care about

87:13

is if you look at the metric of impact

87:15

and if you if you took

87:16

if you took 2 000 of the best golfers

87:20

and you took their impact position you

87:21

laid off you laid their swings

87:23

against each other and including mel

87:25

norman

87:26

you're going to have a particular metric

87:28

of the body you're going to have

87:29

about 35 degrees of pelvis rotation

87:32

about 35 degrees of taurus rotation

87:35

about 25 degrees of forward bend and

87:37

about 20 degrees of side bend

87:39

so you're going to have those metrics at

87:41

impact they're going to be in that range

87:43

okay so having said that i know where

87:46

we're trying to go with impact

87:48

and i said before we should all be we

87:51

should all understand that that is the

87:52

purpose of ball striking is to get to

87:54

those metrics

87:55

now here's the question how do you get

87:58

to those impact metrics and that's the

88:00

difference between maybe what a stacking

88:01

tilt teaches versus what i

88:03

teach is i'm going to put the body i

88:06

know that i need 20 degrees

88:08

of side bend at impact i'm going to i'm

88:10

going to be at 16 at address

88:12

so i only have to go about four degrees

88:13

to get to impact so i'm going to create

88:16

from a dress shaft plane same thing

88:19

a shaft plane i'm going to basically

88:21

simplify

88:23

my ability to go from my address

88:25

position to those metrics that impact

88:27

with the least amount of movement

88:28

the least amount of rotation and the

88:30

least amount of variation of club shaft

88:32

movement

88:33

that is the purpose of the single plane

88:35

swing

88:36

so when people say what about stack and

88:37

tilt it's a variation on metrics

88:40

and so it's it's what all golf swings

88:42

are it's how much are you stacked is

88:44

your

88:45

spine this way or this way are your

88:46

hands this way or this way

88:48

it's going to be a variation of metric

88:49

so we could talk about

88:52

10 different swing methods however i

88:54

want to keep

88:56

my only my purpose as a golf teacher and

88:58

a coach

88:59

is to say i'm going to simplify this

89:01

thing down right i'm going to find the

89:03

easiest way to get the job done

89:05

and mo figured it out i mean we don't

89:07

have to go very far mo figured out that

89:09

if i put myself

89:10

in this band it makes getting to impact

89:12

very easy so

89:13

like i i don't know all the details of

89:15

stack and tilt

89:16

i know what people i know people come to

89:18

my school that have been through stack

89:19

and tilt

89:20

but but once again we're dealing with

89:22

there's only so many metrics the body

89:24

can go into what we have to figure out

89:25

is what's the easiest way to get the job

89:27

done not

89:28

well let's try this one method or try

89:30

this one thing or whatever i'm always

89:31

looking for the easiest gotcha

89:33

and uh jay just real quick asked um

89:36

about the side tilt you kind of answered

89:38

his question

89:40

it sounds like you said 16 degrees and

89:42

does that change

89:44

um for each club you hit or does it

89:46

remain

89:47

it's good question it's the same so so

89:51

let me go back through that

89:52

sideband is so if my body goes towards

89:55

the target it's a negative

89:57

bend if my body goes away we call this a

90:00

positive bend

90:01

so i have a 16 degree positive position

90:04

of my side bend now oh my god let me

90:07

grab a driver because a lot of people

90:09

it's a good question is it different so

90:11

this would be a driver i won't put it on

90:13

a t but here's my driver position

90:16

it's 16 degrees of side bend now notice

90:18

my notice of the width

90:20

of my feet okay so just pay attention to

90:22

the width of my feet

90:23

but that's 16 degrees of side bend now

90:25

let me grab my shortest club i have here

90:27

which is my wedge

90:29

and the ball position obviously is is

90:31

back with a wedge but look at my side

90:33

bend

90:34

it's exactly the same 16 degrees so it

90:36

doesn't matter if i have a driver

90:38

or a wedge it's the exact same side bend

90:41

now forward bend driver

90:46

wedge right so driver there wedge there

90:48

so forward bend

90:49

you're going to see some differences in

90:51

forward bend and this is where we can

90:53

have a whole other conversation about

90:54

single length clubs which we don't need

90:56

to get into

90:57

but yeah so this is why you know there's

91:00

some benefit to

91:01

possibly having single length clubs i'm

91:02

not a huge fan of that because

91:05

it comes down to your swing speeds and

91:07

all these factors we can talk about if

91:08

you guys

91:08

by the way if anybody wants to reach out

91:10

to me email me

91:11

we'll we're going to email everybody you

91:13

know you're going to email everybody

91:14

that you can give my contact information

91:16

yeah

91:16

if you want to talk about that stuff

91:17

i'll be happy more than happy to talk to

91:19

people about it but

91:20

but yeah so sideband the answer to that

91:22

question is the same side bin for every

91:24

every single club

91:25

awesome and then bill asked if you could

91:28

show the left hand position again

91:30

do you rotate the left forearm

91:32

counterclockwise until it locks with the

91:35

thumb at 12 o'clock

91:37

yeah yeah so left hand so so

91:40

is this the last question yeah yeah okay

91:42

so let me just go into a little bit of

91:43

detail here and we'll finish it off so

91:45

um what i'm trying to do biomechanically

91:49

and this is you know in the conversation

91:51

of bryson

91:52

this is the great thing about what

91:53

bryson is

91:55

bringing to the world of golf not only

91:56

is he is he is he showing people

91:59

the differences of what you know this

92:01

the scientific element of

92:03

biomechanics but he is bringing to light

92:05

something that

92:06

that i have not had the platform to

92:08

bring that mo did not have the platform

92:09

to bring

92:10

was what we call range of motion or what

92:12

mo what bryson calls zeroing out

92:15

and what this really is it's taking your

92:17

body and saying okay

92:19

if you if you take your body and you

92:21

tilt it okay so there's my side bend

92:24

and i isolate the shoulder so it can't

92:26

move i can only move my lead arm so far

92:29

that's the full range of motion of my

92:31

lead hand right

92:32

well that's really important because the

92:35

goal of impact

92:37

is to put your body into i mean you

92:40

can't you're moving so fast and your

92:42

arms are moving that you can't no one

92:43

can time up

92:44

by thinking impact so you want to put

92:47

your body in a position the only place

92:48

it can go is into its full range

92:51

so what bryson is very good at talking

92:53

about and what mo

92:54

was not good at talking about was if i

92:57

put my body if

92:58

i take this arm and i go into my side

93:00

bend which is the first thing that's

93:02

important

93:02

and then i isolate my upper arm and only

93:05

use my forearm

93:06

it puts the back of my hand into a full

93:08

range to the target

93:10

and so that is the position of the lead

93:13

hand as long as the club face now

93:15

the leading edge of the club is square

93:16

to my full range

93:18

now that's what's going to occur when i

93:20

get to impact see that that's my full

93:22

range of motion

93:23

and here's what's so good about it it

93:25

can only go to square

93:28

no matter what i do i can only square

93:29

the club there's just no other variance

93:31

to that

93:32

so this is why when i teach the grip

93:35

position which

93:36

we're talking about the lead hand here

93:37

it's why the side bend

93:39

is a very important factor in that if

93:42

you watch this if i come out of side

93:43

bend see how the face can open up now

93:45

see that i have very i have variable

93:46

here but this eliminates a variable

93:49

it can only go to that full range of

93:51

motion

93:52

and square squareness of the face and

93:54

the lead arm and i can go as far as i

93:56

want that way

93:57

and so so and let me go down the line

94:00

now so if you look down the line

94:02

i go side bend right there's my side

94:04

bend there's my isolation there's my

94:06

rotation

94:07

and then i'll put my club into the hand

94:09

so now there's my lead hand position

94:11

there

94:12

and there's my lead hand position there

94:14

and the trail handle stick it on there

94:16

just because now that i'm in side bend

94:18

i bring the trail hand up and now this

94:20

arm is below

94:22

the lead arm there

94:25

so that's the single plane alignment

94:27

which allows me to

94:29

get that thing square every single time

94:32

and we talked about it earlier tonight

94:35

as a coach

94:37

if you can if you can develop what i'm

94:39

doing here with my technique and putting

94:40

myself into the range of motion

94:42

the beauty is you're going to hit great

94:44

golf shots but

94:46

the real beauty is is your bad shots are

94:48

better and as you know

94:49

i mean i'll go play around the golf and

94:51

i'll hit it good but that means

94:53

that means 70 of my shots are good and

94:55

there's 30 percent that i would

94:56

i'd want to do over but the 30 that i

94:58

miss hit are still

95:00

playable and pretty good and i can still

95:02

play really good golf because i'm never

95:04

too far offline and i think the key to

95:06

playing great golf is

95:07

not how many great shots you hit but how

95:09

many

95:10

of the shots that you hit badly that are

95:12

still pretty good and that's what what

95:13

i'm trying to do here is help people

95:14

create golf swings and build golf swings

95:16

that are certainly repeatable that have

95:19

less variables less variation

95:20

and then are super consistent yeah and

95:22

eliminate some of those double and

95:24

triple bogeys

95:26

yeah exactly awesome well

95:29

um i'm gonna go ahead and we're

95:33

we're done with the the q a i just

95:35

wanted to um

95:37

thank everybody for

95:41

for joining us tonight sticking around

95:42

we've still got quite a few people

95:44

uh still in here richard yes uh todd and

95:47

i uh

95:48

plan on working together more richard

95:50

said

95:51

it gives you and your brother tim a lot

95:53

of props

95:55

um and he appreciates you helping this

95:58

golf game

95:59

paul said thanks um and

96:02

i also um real quick todd

96:06

you sent me a link i have everyone going

96:09

if you guys hold on a second because you

96:10

guys are going to be

96:11

uh going somewhere right after this i'm

96:13

also going to follow up in an email

96:15

but maybe um talk to them a little bit

96:17

about um

96:20

the the the the link that they're going

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to and what that

96:24

yeah so anybody who's new that wants to

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96:36

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96:38

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96:40

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96:42

um but but look if you're if you're

96:43

really serious about getting involved

96:45

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96:46

um reach out to me or get a hold of me

96:49

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96:50

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96:52

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that's where i spend my time is really

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98:08

yeah and we had multiple people here

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douglas denton said it's a great program

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jeff said the online fitting tool is is

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a lot of people commenting on on the uh

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say that you know i reach out to for the

98:23

folks i've been in some of these in the

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98:24

you know i've reached out to tons of

98:26

different coaches

98:28

i only work with people that i find that

98:30

are genuine and actually want to help

98:32

and i todd is such a great guy so you

98:35

know you're going to be backed by

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someone who

98:37

actually is really going to take care of

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you and support his product

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and service so i'll say that as well and

98:43

everyone on here as i mentioned

98:46

i'll be giving todd to eat all your

98:48

email addresses and you guys can

98:49

continue communicating there

98:51

but if you have any questions for me or

98:53

you need to get in touch with me and ask

98:54

anything

98:55

um definitely um feel free to do so as

98:58

well

98:58

great thanks sean thanks everybody for

99:01

watching everything thank you

99:04

yup have a great night everyone