5 Moves That Will Kill Your Swing Speed
I don't know any golfer who wants less swing speed, do you? If so, let me know the first person who wants to swing slower.
In this video the Athletic Motion Golf team shows you 5 moves (or moves not to do) that will rob your swing speed. The good news is that avoiding these moves is pretty easy to do.
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It's a super simple drill that you can start doing right away to get more dynamic in your golf swing and increase your speed.
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all right today's video we're going to
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talk about a subject that i think
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all of us want more of and a lot of us
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are finding
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really hard to get and that's speed what
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needs to happen in your golf swing to
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generate more speed
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so you can generate more ball speed so
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you can generate more distance we're
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going to show you the things
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that you may be trying to do that are
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actually hurting you from gaining speed
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we're going to show you exactly the
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things you need to be doing to get more
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speed in your swing
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all right sean like we do in most videos
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let's go through a couple of these
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we'll almost call them speed killers
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because we see them every day
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from golfers who come in trying to gain
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more speed and they're doing
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at least one of these if not several of
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these
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so in essence it is killing their speed
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so we'll start
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we'll give you five of them that we see
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very often and chances are
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one at least one of these five is in
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your swing
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they're heavily on the concepts but
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we're going to go through each five of
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them here
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before we get started with the gears so
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number one it's a big one
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number one would be um let's just start
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from the bottom right
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no lateral motion starting back like
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trying to not sway at all
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starting back right and we see this all
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the time right freezing
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we see the the the image that golfers
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have in their head
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is i don't want to like like you okay
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you sway and you do all that right
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that turns into not wanting to do that
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turns into
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100 doing that thinking they're keeping
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the center of this belt buckle right
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still but my hips are actually moving
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way forward yeah what he's doing there
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that is 100 a speed killer
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bad it's a shock killer too yeah so if
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you're trying to hold them
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uh completely still laterally and start
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the backswing
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you're leaving out all this motion that
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can help you get things moving in the
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right direction also start tilting your
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hips which is
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really important when we get to how to
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add speed right we're going to show you
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a gears here in just a second
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of what should happen with this yeah
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okay so that's number one trying to kill
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your lateral motion so we've got our pro
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and our am here
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and just a reminder all the data we're
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showing is from real golfers making real
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swings
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these golfers get suited up with 32
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markers placed at key locations across
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their body and club
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this allows us to see exactly what's
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happening during the swing
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we've also removed the club and ball so
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we can make our golfers as large as
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possible but
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these are real swings gotta emphasize
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that these are not practice swings these
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are real swings
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we want to highlight a couple things
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here on the screen one the sway numbers
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you see here at the top
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are going to give you real time location
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information
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of where each coffers center of pelvis
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is moving positive number means the
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pelvis is moving laterally towards the
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target a negative number means it's
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moving laterally
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away from the target next we're using
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these small rotating balls to track each
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golfer's center of pelvis movements
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so you can see where they start and
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where they move to
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and finally we put a thin white line
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behind their left heels
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if you've seen our pros versus ams video
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on hip rotation and early extension
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you know how important it is to not have
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a lot of your rear end
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behind this line and as you can see here
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our am is in a very prototypical
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amateur setup with a lot of his butt
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behind that line
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that's going to create an issue for him
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right off the bat
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as these guys start moving you're going
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to see two completely different movement
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patterns
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and these are two patterns we see every
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day
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the pro is moving his pelvis to the
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right or away from the target
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as he rotates back the am is moving his
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pelvis forward
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as he rotates back we're only taking
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these guys to the end of their takeaways
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or when the club shaft is parallel to
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the ground at this spot
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our pro here is right on a pro average
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of about 1.2
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inches of movement away from the target
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at the end
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of his takeaway our amm has also moved
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1.2 inches but he's moved in the
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complete opposite direction
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anytime there's an opposite movement
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from what good players do
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it's something you'll probably want to
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correct because our am was told that
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sliding was bad and he should avoid that
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at all cost he
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thought and felt he was turning with a
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centered pivot he felt he was turning
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around the middle of his hips but as you
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can see
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it wasn't the case moving laterally in
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the golf swing whether you want to call
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it sliding swaying
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lateral movement however you want to
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describe it is not bad
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it's when it's done and how much it's
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done
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that's what creates the issues anything
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good can be overdone
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so here's a great way to know if you're
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moving correctly
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to start your swing place an alignment
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stick outside your right leg
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like we're showing here swing the club
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to the end of your takeaway when the
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shaft is parallel to the ground
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if your hips have moved away from that
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alignment stick you're moving your
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pelvis in the wrong direction as you
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turn
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instead you want to see your right hip
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move into that stick a bit like you see
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our pro here doing
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doing this correctly will help set up
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your backswing for a dynamic and
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athletic
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downswing all right sean number two
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and this is one that we both did when we
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were younger
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yeah we both have bad backs now i built
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a little contraption
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yeah so i could do this one i had a guy
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who was helping me with my swing he
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wasn't an instructor but he was a really
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good player right you know
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when you're younger and you go to like
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okay this is the best player at the club
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you get help from him and you know you
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think it's gold right
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told me to envision both of my knees
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in a cast that sounds bad right
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and i did i was pretty darn athletic
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when i was younger
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and i could do that and i got this
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i aged really quick trying that but we
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see that all the time yeah so
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exactly and i was i was trying to
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basically
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if you put a shaft down like this across
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my knees i was trying to not
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change the knee flex at all right with
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either leg like i was thinking this one
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was okay to come in but i didn't want
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him to change
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this way at all which we know now is
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just dead wrong
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trying to to hold this lower body still
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and crank the upper body one you're
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gonna be most likely gonna get
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what we just saw on number one like the
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hips are gonna turn level
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and move forward that's gonna tilt the
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upper body back you're gonna get in a
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world of hurt as far as generating speed
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and maybe a world of hurt as far as pain
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goes
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no absolutely i think that one really
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can do a number on your back and i can
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speak to that
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yeah so let's take a look at gears what
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we see good players do what we see fast
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players do
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with regards to this despite being a
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simple and straightforward movement
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knee bend is something we see cause
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problems for both pros and amateurs
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when and how much the knee bends has a
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big influence on what happens above
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and below it let's look at what happens
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in a good knee bend pattern
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notice how our pros knees start changing
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their bend
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right away we often see ams trying to
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hold their knee bend until late in the
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backswing which isn't something we see
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in great swings by the time he reaches
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the top of his swing
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his right knee is lost around 10 degrees
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of bend while his left knee
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has more than doubled its bend depending
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on how much knee bend you have at
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address
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we typically like to see a 5 to 10
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degree loss
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in right knee bend with at least a
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doubling in the left knee
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the reason for this is it creates a
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tremendous advantage for you
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in the transition when the right knee
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straightens it raises the right hip
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when the left knee doubles its bend it
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lowers the left hip
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that combo puts you in this powerful
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downhill position
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at the top which allows you to really
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leverage the ground in your downswing
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for a serious boost of speed
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and that brings us to the arrows you're
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seeing here we're able to measure the
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amount and direction of force the golfer
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generates
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under each foot during the swing the
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blue arrow is the force generated under
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his right foot and the yellow
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is the force generated under his left
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foot here at address the forces are
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fairly balanced
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as he starts moving and his knees begin
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to change their bend you can see how
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that affects the amount and direction of
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these forces
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each playing a big role in his rotation
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and his lateral move
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it's in this area of the backswing where
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we typically see great players create
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the largest amount of force under their
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right foot this is where the golfer is
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using the ground
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to brace against that movement created
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off the ball in the takeaway
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this is the dynamic starting point for
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the downswing
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now by contrast a common amateur move we
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see is this
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right foot spike late into the downswing
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as the golfer is trying to push off late
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to get to their left side
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nearing impact learning to bend your
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knees correctly will allow you to create
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a dynamic start to your downswing which
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is a great and easy
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way to add a bunch of speed to your
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swing all right so for number three
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and these are kind of building in
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sequence as
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they show up in the lesson t in
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popularity right
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this one is just over turning in the
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backswing
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unlimited at all cost like i'm just
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going to rotate my body as much as
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possible
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thinking that that wind up will just be
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magic on the downswing this one is
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terrible
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i mean yes it is entire time what what
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the golfer normally does
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i'm going to max out my turn they stand
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up and
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one of the reasons they stand up it
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releases the body angle so it allows
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them to turn more
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so not only are they turning more
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they're losing all these great kind of
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hip tilts and body tilts that they need
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to make a decent golf swing so by trying
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to do that to get more speed
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not only are they ruining the the motion
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or the plane of their swing
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right right they're going to slow down
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because they it takes too much time to
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get that back to the ball and you can
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talk about that
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so they're going to do one element of
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the swing at the sake of about
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five other elements that's right that
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are very important for producing speed
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so you're like
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robbing peter and you've got to pay paul
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mary john and tim
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and of course on the down swing in the
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quarter of a second and all you always
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wind up short
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so if you think about this aspect of
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rotation
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as far as timing goes okay like a good
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range of motion
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which is how much you can rotate from
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the top of the swing
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to impact right that quarter of a second
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a good range of motion
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is 80 degrees most normal golfers are
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somewhere around
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70 a few really flexible young
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flat belly pros are around 90. so kind
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of a conservative range is that 75 to 85
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in a quarter of a second what we see
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golfers in their 60s do
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in 70s in some cases 60 to 65 degrees of
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rotation
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because they're standing up they've got
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the club wrapped around them they think
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this is going to be speed
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now the best they can do is get about 10
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degrees open with their hips
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and again the clock face the one minute
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mark is six degrees so just a little bit
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more than that
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the chest is closed the shoulders are
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really closed
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and you've seen this guy on the range
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he's coming through impact like that
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okay he has to
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any thought of unlimited rotation
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you can't cash in on it by impact
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because you're going to be closed and
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you're going to have to give all that up
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by throwing the loft and just throwing
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the club head at the ball yeah so
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there's a way to turn correctly that
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you can still feel like you're you're
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making a big enough turn right but
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you're putting the body in the right
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position to do it
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that's so much more valuable to
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generating speed okay so
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scrap the idea and you'll see here
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what's going to happen with the pros
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scrap the idea of just
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maximum rotation for maximum speed
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that's not how it happens
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here's a great example of why balanced
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rotation which we'll explain to you in a
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minute
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is better than just trying to increase
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your rotation you're looking at the
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before and after
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of an amateur golfer in his 60s 63 if i
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remember correctly and like most golfers
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over 50 he came to us
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looking to get back some of that speed
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lost to father time he was told that
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more rotation was the key to more speed
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more rotation going back
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and more rotation coming down and that's
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exactly what he worked on
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you're looking at his first wing that we
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captured and this is him at the top of
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the swing he's turned 45 degrees with
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the hips
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80 with the chest 114 with his shoulders
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those are great numbers for any age now
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let's see if he was able to use that to
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his advantage
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so here he is at impact he was able to
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turn his hips 62 degrees
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during his downswing so 45 close at the
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top to 17 degrees open at impact
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not balanced at all and by that we mean
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we see great players have equal amounts
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of rotation
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on both sides of impact or they're
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favoring more
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open than they were closed so using our
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golfer here is an example he was 45
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close at the top
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that means he would need to be 45 open
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at impact to be balanced
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but that would require him to turn 90
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degrees in the same amount of time
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he was only able to turn 62 degrees you
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see why the idea of
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max rotating in the backswing can most
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often wind up costing you distance
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his club head speed on this 7 iron was
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84 miles an hour
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now let's look at the swing he put up at
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the end of the lesson
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he's now starting down a little less
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rotated than he was before
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we'll go into detail about all the
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changes that we made to a swing in our
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next pros versus ams but we changed his
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rotation here
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at the top by changing his angles in the
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backswing you can see the significant
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difference in how his body is positioned
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between his feet compared to how he was
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before
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as he starts down notice how much freer
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he's turning and how much more speed
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he's applying to the grip we'll talk
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about this more in a few minutes but too
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often we hear golfers given a choice
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either be passive with the arms and
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rotate or pull the arms down and stall
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your rotation
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that's a bogus choice because neither of
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those is good for your swing
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the goal should be to do what our golfer
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here just did he got the grip into the
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club moving faster earlier
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and on plane which allowed him and his
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words to turn through the ball like he
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had never felt before
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he doubled his hip rotation from 17
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degrees
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to 34 degrees open at impact he added 10
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more degrees of rotation to his chest
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and his shoulders went from too closed
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to 8
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open oh and his club head speed jumped
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from 84 miles per hour to 92 miles per
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hour
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by improving his body angles in the
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backswing we were able to improve
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his transition sequence add more speed
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to the grip earlier which allowed him to
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better balance out his rotation
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and for his efforts he was rewarded with
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eight more miles per hour of speed
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in a short amount of time number four we
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see this
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it's become really popular actually it's
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the idea if you remember back the old x
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factor days where you would have golfers
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kind of it goes with our number point
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number two it's that
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holding all this creating this x factor
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in the backswing
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that eventually turned into trying to
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create x factor stretch in the downswing
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where golfers are now trying to
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hold the shoulders yeah fire the lower
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body
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and try to keep that you know kind of
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stretching increase the stretch yeah
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and the the problem with that is that
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there's no time at some point that gap
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needs to be closed right
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the gap between the upper and the lower
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body right and if you're increasing that
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stretch
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as you start down you're never going to
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have a chance to close this not only do
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you lose speed
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your body comes in and this hung back
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closed position
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now you're affecting the release and how
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you hit it on the club face and this
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one's killer
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yes exactly right this one always morphs
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into the idea too of
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passive with the arms get the body super
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rotated and then somewhere down here you
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can just blow the speed and just
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just burn speed down there really
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increase your speed
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that's the opposite of what fast players
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do you need that entire quarter of a
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second
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to generate speed we've got to get this
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end of the club moving as fast as we can
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early so it transfers out to this end if
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you wait and hold this
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end you're going to be robbing yourself
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on the business end and you're going to
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go slower because of it got mountains of
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data that shows that
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one of the coolest things about being
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able to measure golf swings in such
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detail is that we can learn what groups
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of golfers do compared to other groups
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in this case we've captured a number of
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pros who are the fastest
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of the fastest you quickly learn what it
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takes to produce more speed when you're
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able to study
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what golfers do who have speed it allows
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you to separate
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theory from fact fairly fast when the
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goal of the downswing is to basically go
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from zero miles per hour with the club
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head to
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a hundred plus miles an hour in less
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than a quarter of a second
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it's probably a good idea to look at the
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acceleration profiles
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we can see how quickly the hips
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accelerate we can see how quickly the
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chest
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accelerates we can also see the same for
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the club and lastly we can see how fast
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the left arm accelerates in the
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downswing
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here you're looking at a different set
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of pro and amateur golfers
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they're going to demonstrate what we
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commonly see with regards to
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acceleration
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we're using these two golfers because
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they represent a large data set they
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have similar length back swings which
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which are looking at them here at the
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tops of their swings and they both
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rotate really well in fact the am
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rotates more and gets more open than the
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pro does
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the big difference here though is that
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the pro has 25 more miles per hour of
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club head speed
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so we've slowed down the pro swing to
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match the amateur's timing we want you
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to be able to see
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what the pro does relative to what the
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am does and what you can apply
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to your golf swing one common trait we
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see with fast golfers is they get their
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left arm moving
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faster than their hips their chest and
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the club
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very early in the downswing it's the
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opposite of being passive with the arms
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we see them have very strong
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accelerations from the top because again
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they're trying to get their club going
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from zero to over 120 miles an hour in
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about .220 seconds
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not really something you can do
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passively so what we're going to do is
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stop each of these golfers in their
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downswings when their left arm is
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accelerating
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faster than the club the chest and the
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hips
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as you can see it didn't take our pro
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long to reach that spot
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the am however never gets his left arm
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accelerating faster than the other three
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which was something he told us he was
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trying not to do
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by the end of the lesson we were able to
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help him change his concept and most
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importantly
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show him how to ramp up his acceleration
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how you can change those accelerations
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like he did
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is something we're gonna share a lot
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more about all right so let's have a
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little fun here with our number five
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speed killer which is
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over simplification first let's be very
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clear
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we love simple simple drills simple
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swing thoughts
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and simple concepts all us golfers come
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in a lot of different shapes and sizes
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we also come from a variety of different
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athletic backgrounds and we want you to
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rely on those athletic instincts
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in a misguided effort to simplify the
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golf swing we often see golfers strip
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away
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key speed producers from their swings
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the idea being if i remove enough
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movement the swing will become simpler
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that's true but there's a tipping point
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with that and we see it tip in the wrong
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direction
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all the time a great example of this is
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the topic of lateral movement the fix
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for too much lateral movement isn't to
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remove it completely
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or just move in the opposite direction
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like we've already seen we want you to
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apply that same logic
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to something as simple as a jump we can
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really simplify a jump by removing the
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counter movement when you lower yourself
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to the ground
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that would certainly make the jump more
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simple but would it make it better
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of course not if you're tired of not
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swinging with the speed you know you're
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capable of
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start by removing these five speed bumps
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from your swing
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most golfers will have at least one you
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might have a couple or you might even
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have all of them
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whatever the case just know it is
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fixable you
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absolutely can increase the speed you
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have now with the body you have now
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we get to help golfers do it every day
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sean this is usually the part of the
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video where i stand here and watch you
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do some drills i talk you actually do
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the work
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instead of making this just go on and on
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and on with these four topics
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we're gonna actually give you guys a
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one of the most common comments from
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that video is okay great i understand
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the concept but how do i do it
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this training series will show you
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farther have you hitting the ball with
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and how much time does it take typically
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you know what five minutes maybe if i
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get them to
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we've seen it we've seen seven miles an
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hour in five minutes
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typically way less than a normal golf
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lesson you're going to be adding
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a decent amount of club head speed to
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your golf swing just by following what's
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in this free video yeah this drill kind
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of encompasses
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all the things you need to add in speed
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right and without
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thinking too much you're just kind of
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using your your athletic ability and
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using the drill to do the teaching for
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you which i think is what's so great
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this is a very dynamic drill
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you are going to have the concepts from
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Best,
Shawn
Would like to watch the speed video.
Hey Lars, I included the link in the post above. You have to sign up to their list. Here is the link: https://www.speedamg.com/
It’s a quick and simple drill to get more dynamic movement.
https://upglove.com/the-golf-pivot-from-this-view-makes-it-so-much-easier-to-understand/#
Gives completely contrary advice to 1st of 5 items ( Or at least that is how I am perceiving the video). I am confused.
Hey Ted, are you talking about the slight lateral shift to the trail leg? If you watch Chris’ swing he does actually make this move slightly at the beginning and then he talks about re-centering which the Athletic Motion Golf guys talk a ton about on their channel. With that being said there are tons of variables when digesting this information. I see a lot of pros who may not shift at all with wedges or iron shots where distance is not the focus point. Some folks don’t shift at all, but apply trail leg pressure. Most pros do a slight shift of about 1.5 inches and in many cases is not visible on camera. I think the main thing is to experiment and see if a centered pivot works best for you or if a more dynamic movement gets you into better position. I hope that helps!